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eBay Convicted in Counterfeit Case

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Expect further tightening of trust and safety policies on eBay in the wake of a French court ruling concerning counterfeit merchandise.

In what has the makings of a landmark decision, a court in Reims, France, has ruled that eBay is directly responsible for the sale of bogus Hermes bags on its auction site, and ordered the e-commerce giant to pay 20,000 Euros, or approximately $30,000, in damages.

The ruling, handed down Wednesday, stated that eBay “failed to act within [its] powers” to prevent counterfeiting activity within its online community, according to a news report, which stated the verdict was the first of its kind in France.

In a statement issued following the ruling, eBay said: “eBay takes the issue of counterfeiting very seriously and we condemn it outright. Today’s court ruling relates to past seller verification issues. The court acknowledged that eBay subsequently addressed these issues with its enhanced anti-counterfeiting measures through its VeRO initiative.”

The VeRO initiative aims to combat counterfeiting and intellectual property misuse, but members and individual manufacturers are generally left to police the site and report violations.

A handful of similar cases are pending against eBay in five European countries, and at least one is under review in the U.S. How heavily the Hermes decision will factor in the direction of the remaining lawsuits depends largely on the locality of the individual cases, notes Aaron Kessler, senior research analyst with Piper Jaffray & Co. in East Palo Alto, CA.

“The question is, who is the merchant of record, and how much is eBay responsible for verifying the authenticity of the items sold on its site,” Kessler says. “Each country might have its own interpretation of that.”

If people don’t trust what they’re buying, that’s a problem for eBay

The material impact of the court fines will barely register at eBay—$30,000 is pocket change for the multibillion-dollar Internet goliath. However, eBay has plenty to fear in terms of the psychological effect on buyers. While it’s probably close to impossible to completely eliminate illicit activity on such an online venue, the company can and should take steps to increase enforcement, Kessler says.

“There is continuing concern for buyers on issues of trust and safety. If people don’t trust what they’re buying, that’s a problem for eBay,” he adds. “We have been seeing slower buying activity on eBay the last couple of years.” (Editor’s Note:  Or could it also be the fact that Ebay’s continues to raise its fees making sellers raise their prices - thereby affecting buyers too?!)

The Hermes case dates back to 2006, when the luxury fashion design house sued eBay, claiming the Internet auction company allowed three Hermes knockoffs to be passed off as the real deal, and sold on its site for a total of 3,000 Euros.

According to an Agence France-Presse report, lawyers for The Hermes Group asserted eBay is “an active player in the transaction because, not only does it offer a number of services to improve the sale, but when it does not work well enough or fast enough, they intervene with the client… They are perfectly informed of the transactions since they take a percentage cut.”

Several other European designer brands, including Louis Vuitton, Dior Couture and cosmetics company L’Oreal have separately sued eBay for doing too little to thwart counterfeit activity. Unifab, a French industry lobby group, has also taken eBay to court, seeking action by eBay to better police its site.

In the United States, a counterfeiting lawsuit filed by Tiffany in 2004 is now being considered by a New York federal judge.

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Should eBay be responsible for policing the fakes better on its site? I mean, if our group of self-proclaimed experts in designer denim at HonestForum can tell a fake from the real deal from a photo on the computer screen, why can’t eBay’s paid employees? Perhaps all of us should apply for “counterfeit spotting” jobs with eBay! The $30,000 fine is just a drop in the bucket for eBay - they should have hit them with a $30 million dollar fine and then, maybe, they might take this more seriously!

Do you think Ebay’s recent changes haven given buyers more faith that they are getting authentic goods on Ebay?

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Black Market Denim Party Sting: Why You Should Not Buy Fakes!

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You’ve got to watch this video - watch the whole thing, its about 4 and a half minutes long - and check out all the fake jeans these two were peddling from their home - over $300,000 worth!  This video also explains exactly why buying OR selling fake designer merchandise is bad for all of us.

Why buying/selling fakes is bad:

  • Selling fake jeans (or any fake goods) is illegal!
  • Buying fake goods is not illegal but that is being looked at as a possible new law so don’t buy them!
  • Buying fake good supports terrorism - and there is evidence selling fakes contributed to the funding of the 1993 World Trade Center bombings!
  • Buying fake goods supports child labor!
  • Buying or selling fake goods from China takes jobs away from Americans!
  • Wearing fake jeans is tacky! (Okay so I threw that last one in there!  But it’s true!)

Click here to see the full text of the story

One more attempt to stop the fakes

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From a blog on Fashionista.com:

At least one company’s so annoyed with getting knocked off that they’re taking serious anti-counterfeiting measures -

Rather than relying on police cracking down on fakes, Loro Piana’s decided to make their goods un-fakeable.

They’ve created their own metal ring bearing the Loro Piana logo that’ll be sewn into each of their cashmere products. The rings will be engraved with an identifying serial number that can be used to trace the origins of each product, down to which piece of fabric it was cut from and which batch of yarn was used to weave its raw fiber.

We think their initiative is great, even though we think it would be fairly easy for a counterfeiter to just throw any old number onto a metal ring to make the scarf appear genuine at first glance, but then again, maybe the process would just be too expensive to make the fakes worth it.

(In other counterfeit news, we hear Forever 21 is about to be embroiled in a huge fake-related battle - a tipster says an LA lawyer is “representing a handful of names bringing some big suits against them” - care to take some guesses?)”

Source: Fashionista.com & British Vogue

Does anyone else think this is similar to Louis Vuitton using serial numbers in their bags?  The fakers can just do what this blog stated above and slap any old number on there.  Will this help stop counterfeits, and do you think denim-makers will try something similar any time soon?

And on the part about a Forever 21 lawsuit, I am surprised that hadn’t happened sooner - I constantly see L.A.M.B. by Gwen Stefani rip-offs in Forever 21’s, as well as handbags that look like designer knockoffs of Birkin’s, etc.  That one was just a matter of time. 

New York police crack down on those icky fakes in Chinatown!

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Back in February I was in New York, and I went on my first visit to Chinatown. The food was good, but other than that I couldn’t figure out why exactly I went - I was totally disgusted by all the fakes that line the streets. I am so happy to hear this happened! Maybe this will start to rid the market of just a few of those icky counterfeiters - if they keep this up, maybe denim fakes will start to go away too.  They need to have stiffer penalties for these infridgements on copyrights and trademarks - seizing them is great, but the trademarker holders need to sue these people too and put them out of business so it can’t continue.

Yesterday morning, New York City police officers seized more than $1 million in knockoff accessories and fragrances bearing labels like Prada, Fendi, Gucci, Dolce & Gabbana, Burberry, Calvin Klein, and Coach.

Three buildings were raided on a block in Chinatown formed by Canal, Walker, and Centre Streets, which housed 32 storefronts illegally selling fake goods. According to Mayor Michael Bloomberg, this is one of the largest raids on trademark copiers in the city’s history, following a seizure of $45 million in counterfeit merchandise back in 2005.

Article from FabSugar.

BLM14 gets interviewed by TV station about Fake Designer Denim

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Big props to BLM14 for his interview with Channel 7 News in Boston, MA. Its about time people started paying attention. Whether it is designer denim, handbags, jewelry, what have you, I think the entire ‘fake’ industry needs to be taken a bit more seriously. I, for one, am sick of seeing girls and guys sporting fake designer clothes and bags. Maybe reports like this will help people to understand just how nasty fake designer items are. What are your thoughts on fake designer goods?

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If you spend big bucks on your designer jeans you will want to see this. 7’s Style Reporter Gretta Monahan shows you how to spot copies of your favorite designers and avoid getting duped by denim in “Gretta’s Got It.”
Gretta Monahan:
“When it comes to fashionable fakes, bogus bags are not the only things that are being knocked off.”

Designer denim is the newest fashion must thats being faked.

Gretta Monahan:
“So, to make sure you next pair of pricey jeans are real I get some help from a pro.”

Ben May has turned a hobby of finding fakes into a business of buyer beware!

Ben May:
“The top three designer jeans being knocked would be Diesel, True Religion and Seven’s. Although even jeans like Levis and GAP are being faked to a certain degree too.”

Continue reading ‘BLM14 gets interviewed by TV station about Fake Designer Denim’

Are we all just label whores?

Check out the following interesting blog we stumbled across. What’s your take on what this blogger has to say about designer denim and other designer goods?

A recent headline in our local paper announced that a retail store in a local upscale mall had been raided by police. Apparently they were selling fake designer clothing. As I read this story I wondered if other people were struck by the same thoughts as I had.

First, the idea of paying $300 for a pair of jeans just so you can have Dolce and Gabbana displayed across your butt seems ludicrous to me. The fake jeans were, according to the article, “almost indistinguishable from the real thing; you’d have to know what to look for”. Then what, exactly, are people paying the $300 for? I mean, if I can find a pair of jeans that looks the same, feels the same, wears the same and is worth less than a third of the cost - (and we know they’re all made in the same overseas sweatshops) then what is all that extra money for?

Advertising is expensive, right? And yet people willingly turn themselves into walking billboards by displaying logos on their clothing. If you knew it cost a company $5,000 to paint their logo on the side of a car, wouldn’t you feel cheated that you had to pay THEM for the privilege of wearing their logo on your personage?

Ask folks why they wear this stuff and they’ll say they want to appear fashionable, cool, as having good taste. But really, let’s be honest here. It’s a status symbol. Having a Louis Vuitton purse apparently screams “I have so much money I can blow $5000 on a purse”. More likely it says “I’m so insecure that I blew $5000 I didn’t really have in order to impress people”.

What I also find interesting is that people willingly seek out designer fakes. It’s huge business all around the developed world. The better the fake, the more people want it. What this says to me is that people aren’t buying the real stuff for any other reason than to impress others and if they can find a good fake that won’t be apparent they are more than happy to don the fake item and save their money.

The headline story read as though a grievous crime had been committed. But I think the joke is on the consumers. AFAIC, anybody who is shallow enough to spend ten times the money on an article of clothing simply because of the name deserves to be fleeced if they can’t even figure out that the fake they bought is fake (after all, if it’s truly an issue of quality then shouldn’t it be obvious? I don’t know much about designers but I can hold a cheap suit next to a Zegna suit and feel right away that there’s a big difference). I also think the people making the fakes should be quietly applauded for revealing the ridiculousness of the whole designer label industry. The fact that good fakes require trained detectives to distinguish them from the real thing and the low cost of making those fakes is a blatant revelation of the fleece job consumers are subjected to by the pricing of these designer items. Those $300 jeans likely cost no more to make than the $150 fakes did (which are already marked up by about 300%).

I just can’t believe this story made headlines. Surely there is more important stuff going on in the world than this.”

Its funny because our guess is many people feel this way and buy fakes, thinking no one can tell the difference. But we (the HonestForum & DenimBlog community) know better, that there is a BIG difference in quality, the way they feel and look - and most fakes LOOK fake. The authentic jeans do cost more to manufacture than the fakes too, although this blogger apparently thinks otherwise (if they don’t claim to know much about designer goods, how can they make a statement like that?) Many designer jeans are sanded and dyed by hand, not created through child labor. For us, its not about impressing someone because we wear nice jeans or carry a designer handbag, its about enjoying the quality of a high end product, the way it looks and feels. Its the fake-makers that employ child laborers in sweatshops and support crime and terrorism. Don’t buy fakes!

Score another one for the good guys!

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From the New York Post
‘$200M KNOCKOFF’ BUSTS

By KATI CORNELL

December 6, 2007 — At the height of the holiday shopping season, the feds busted 10 members of an international smuggling ring trying to sneak more than $200 million in designer knockoffs into the city from China, officials said yesterday.

Prosecutors said the ring paid $500,000 in bribes to an undercover agent, believing they were dealing with a corrupt union official who could help get the shipments past security.

The ring shipped at least 100 cargo containers stuffed with fake Chanel and Coach bags, Nike sneakers and designer jeans - in some cases labeling the boxes as “noodles” - from ports in China to New Jersey, the feds allege.

Announcing the arrests yesterday, US Attorney Michael Garcia called the yearlong investigation by the Department of Immigration and Customs Enforcement “one of the largest counterfeit smuggling cases ever brought in United States history.”

“It is always deeply troubling when a criminal enterprise seeks to circumvent our port security, whatever the form of contraband and wherever the point of entry,” Garcia said.

kati.cornell@nypost.com

Don’t get lured to a Jeans Party!

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Have you heard about the popularity of the new “jeans parties”? They are poping up everywhere like Tupperware parties, including on many college campuses. Like purse parties, 99% of the time, they are full of knockoffs. Don’t get sucked in - no one looks good in fakes! Remember, if the price seems to good to be true, it usually is.

Check out the discussion on this on the HonestForum.

We guess just anyone can put up a blog these days…

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*Sigh* 

Sometimes we have to wonder how stupid some counterfeit sellers really think we are?!  Here’s another self-proclaimed “fashionista” who thinks putting up pics of celebs in jeans in a blog will drive traffic to her online store full of fakes…and we mean BAD fakes.  Try not to laugh too hard.  Perhaps someone can report this one to the trademark divisions of R&R and SFAM and get it shut down. 

Remember, if you want the REAL thing (and don’t want real fashionistas to laugh hysterically at the fakes on your bum), check out threads like this one in the HonestForum on where and where not to shop.

Texas news story about designer jeans stolen

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Apparently this is happening a lot!  Umm, and Mr. Cop, that black market you talked about?  It’s called ”eBay”.  Duh.  Or they sell them overseas to help them manufacture fakes.  Let’s hope they bust these guys.

From a Texas news station:

“For the second time this week, thieves have broken into a store to steal expensive designer blue jeans.

Burglars targeted two boutiques when they broke through their front glass windows.

Upwards of 75 pairs of high-end designer jeans from the Abito Boutique and Valentines.

The case is similar to a smash-and-grab that occurred at Ben Bridge jewelry — where thieves used sledgehammers to break through jewelry cases.

Cops don’t yet know if there’s a connection, and they don’t know if the suspects behind a blue-jean break-in at the Blue Elephant Boutique early Monday morning could be connected.

While cops piece together the clues, shoppers are shocked. The designer jeans can cost $300.

“It seems crazy that they’re stealing jeans,” says shopper Wendy Mackey. “That’s such a random thing to steal. But if they’re $300, that’s why they’re breaking in.”

“I guess I would wonder where are these people going to sell them,” said shopper Jeff Bowden. “But I guess when you’re talking about $300 blue jeans; it’s a different world out there.”

Police don’t have a lot of leads. The burglars wore gloves, so no fingerprints were found, and there’s no surveillance video.

Cops say there is a black market for blue jeans.”

Reporter: Rebecca Taylor

Read the whole story here.

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