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post #26 of 51
will it cause permanent damage to ur skin if u go to the tanning bed for like 3 weeks (alternating between days) so u are somewhat tan for spring break?

I went to the tanning bed for the first time ever tonight and was in there for 6 min (i got light/medium skin). Im only planning on doing it until mar. 9th, and then just use the natural sun after that.
post #27 of 51
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if you just want to be tan for spring break, why don't you just get a spray tan?

I've only studied tanning a bit as part of the coursework for my degree, I'm not an expert, but if your'e worried about tanning in a bed vs natural sun... the sun will also cause permanent damage I don't think it really matters where you are getting your rays from.
post #28 of 51
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Originally Posted by cherbd16 View Post
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if you just want to be tan for spring break, why don't you just get a spray tan?

I've only studied tanning a bit as part of the coursework for my degree, I'm not an expert, but if your'e worried about tanning in a bed vs natural sun... the sun will also cause permanent damage I don't think it really matters where you are getting your rays from.
i think i read where as long as ur skin isnt getting burnt, then there is no damage being done to it.
post #29 of 51
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what do you mean by damage? Whether or not there is permanent damage at cellular levels (cancer) is debatable. But, it's without a doubt that sun exposure can cause things like decreased elasticity, sunspots, or the "leathery look". Tanning beds and natural sunlight both have the same rays in varying amounts. (it's about wavelengths and how deep it penetrates) They will both cause similar damage. I'm not saying stay out of the sun, that you shouldn't get rays or there will be consequences. you need sunlight! just don't be mistaken in thinking that just because you arent' getting a burn doesn't mean that there will be no damage.
post #30 of 51
what are u supposed to wear to protect ur eyes in a tanning bed? also is a regular moisturizer like Vaseline almost just as good as those expensive lotions the tanning place sells? r u supposed to put it on ur whole body? Im thinking about just putting it on my front upper body and face since I dont know how to apply it to my back and don't care what my legs look like.

r there any good tan faqs anywhere that arent made by tan salon/tan industry/ or people who hate the sun?
post #31 of 51
to protect your eyes, either invest in a pair of goggles or some salons have you can get disposable sticky things that do that job. Some salons have shared goggles... from someone in public health, I don't reccommed it, and seriously Wear undies, unless you're standing. They "sanitize" beds, but some worms and such are quite commonly spread in tanning beds if you don't protect your "areas".

As for lotions, I can't help, i don't tan a lot but read the thread.most sites you look at will have a bias one way or another, just go look up information. Use a lotion with an SPF if you don't get one made for tanning. you should still have some protection. and if you have a bronzer in it, I'd think that just putting it on your front would leave you a little uneven....? if you have light skin and don't tan a lot, spend some money to protect your skin by investing in a good lotion....
post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by cherbd16 View Post
to protect your eyes, either invest in a pair of goggles or some salons have you can get disposable sticky things that do that job. Some salons have shared goggles... from someone in public health, I don't reccommed it, and seriously Wear undies, unless you're standing. They "sanitize" beds, but some worms and such are quite commonly spread in tanning beds if you don't protect your "areas".

As for lotions, I can't help, i don't tan a lot but read the thread.most sites you look at will have a bias one way or another, just go look up information. Use a lotion with an SPF if you don't get one made for tanning. you should still have some protection. and if you have a bronzer in it, I'd think that just putting it on your front would leave you a little uneven....? if you have light skin and don't tan a lot, spend some money to protect your skin by investing in a good lotion....
lol i tanned in the "nude" (my unit got a little toasted)...never thought about that...thanks for the replies!
post #33 of 51
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Originally Posted by gutter2d View Post
i think i read where as long as ur skin isnt getting burnt, then there is no damage being done to it.
if your skin is changing colors (brown, red, purple, whatever) it's getting damaged


Sun damage: The true price of tanning - MayoClinic.com

AAP - Do Your Skin a Favor: Skip the Spring Break Tan

just a few articles reiterating that. darn, where is jenn? she feels just as strongly about tanning as I do
post #34 of 51
Well, I'm a diff. Jenn, but I feel the same way. Also I'm older I NEVER purposely laid in the sun, but was outdoors running,climbing, motos, biking, way outside! I always wore sunscreen and was covered up within reason, blah blah blah. I have fair skin that burns and tans, green eyes, reddish gold hair . (now ahem, whitish blonde)
I go to the dermatologist once every couple months to get checked for skin cancers .i've had a couple removed that were actually cancers, not just pre cancerous spots.
Here's the punch line . In order to remove all the 'bad' parts of a skin cancer the size of this> 0 they have to leave a big white scar the size of this>


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Yep, a teeny freckle gets dug out 1/4 deep and that big . This is on my neck, a lot of times the only part that was sticking out! OK I'm done.
post #35 of 51
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Originally Posted by lauriebell View Post
if your skin is changing colors (brown, red, purple, whatever) it's getting damaged


Sun damage: The true price of tanning - MayoClinic.com

AAP - Do Your Skin a Favor: Skip the Spring Break Tan

just a few articles reiterating that. darn, where is jenn? she feels just as strongly about tanning as I do
those articles are interesting but they present no evidence or studies confirming that the sun or tanning beds actually damage ur skin. Unless I see something like a 20 year study of 1,000 20 year olds with fair to medium skin who went to a tanning bed twice a week for 20 years; and it resulted in something like 10-20% or more of them getting skin cancer and the majority of them having premature aging and wrinkly skin, then I don't really believe that stuff.
post #36 of 51
Well, you're young, but when you're my age (47) look at the skin on your butt, and skin on say , your arm it's amazing! it's ok if you don't want to believe it , though No worries, I'm just sayin'.
post #37 of 51
Tanning Beds, Sunlamps, and Risk of Cutaneous Malignant Melanoma -- Gallagher et al. 14 (3): 562 -- Cancer Epidemiology Biomarkers & Prevention this is interesting , if you can No, really it has some good info about tanning beds.

That is all.
post #38 of 51
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Originally Posted by gutter2d View Post
those articles are interesting but they present no evidence or studies confirming that the sun or tanning beds actually damage ur skin. Unless I see something like a 20 year study of 1,000 20 year olds with fair to medium skin who went to a tanning bed twice a week for 20 years; and it resulted in something like 10-20% or more of them getting skin cancer and the majority of them having premature aging and wrinkly skin, then I don't really believe that stuff.

aww... no... dude, come on. you dont' really believe that do you??? I could show you articles upon articles of scientific journals that show premature aging and increased cancer association. But what is that going to prove? If you dont' want to believe that tanning damages your skin, you don't have to, but it's pretty sad to be holding out for one study to change your mind. Epidemiology is not a concrete science, people are being paid to come to some sort of conclusion. Any results can be skewed to one’s benefit. You always have to read more. Science is important but here you have people with actual life experience telling you what they KNOW, and you want an article? That is so much more valuable.

As for facts supporting fact that aging and cancer results from increased sun exposure, it is seen with more prevalence in Australia and New Zealand today, both countries known for their youth’s enjoyment of outdoor activities. (think daily on a hot beach in Austrailia and there there is your thousands of young people with fair to medium skin) . There are six skin type categories ranging from white to black, the darker you are, the more melanin you have protecting you from the sun. Have you ever realized that people with dark/black skin don't seem to age as quickly? They naturally have more protection from the sun. It does damage! Comparing your avatar pic to someone say... like michael jordan... You are definatley on the low end of the scale man, and very susceptible to damage. sun tanning permanently changes the chemicals of collagen in your body. Is it only a coincidence the making of leather is also called tanning. If you can't understand how rays can age your skin...Think of it this way, You know how a microwave uses radiation to cook your meat? look at what it does to a piece of chicken in 2 minutes, it is ENTIRELY possible that exposure to the sun's, albeit less intensive, rays can permanently break down the properties in your skin over years.

Sorry for the rant, but seriously, you asked and you dont' want to believe it. UV ray exposure IS the primary cause of premature skin aging. I'm not saying don't sun, just eduacate yourself. Maybe it's just cause it's my field but I get so frustrated with people's ignorance to their health these days just because it's easier to be ignorant. I'm sure you're not this passive about all your health concerns, is it just cause you want to believe you can tan without harm so you can look better?

You mentioned eariler you tanned your little unit a little too much.... it would be sad if you had to find out the hard way when they're taking a chunk out of him.
post #39 of 51
Right on. As I posted above a teeny dot of cancer under the skin is at least 5-10 times more in size. I know.
post #40 of 51
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Originally Posted by gutter2d View Post
those articles are interesting but they present no evidence or studies confirming that the sun or tanning beds actually damage ur skin. Unless I see something like a 20 year study of 1,000 20 year olds with fair to medium skin who went to a tanning bed twice a week for 20 years; and it resulted in something like 10-20% or more of them getting skin cancer and the majority of them having premature aging and wrinkly skin, then I don't really believe that stuff.

Believe what you want. Ignorance is bliss, no?
post #41 of 51
FYI:

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And in 2002, a study from Dartmouth Medical School found that tanning device users had 2.5 times the risk of squamous cell carcinoma and 1.5 times the risk of basal cell carcinoma . And yet, even with all this evidence, the tanning salons remain unrepentant.
(source: The Skin Cancer Foundation - The Case Against Indoor Tanning)

Tanning Beds : Health Topics: University of Iowa Health Care

Melanoma International Foundation STUDY SHOWS TANNING SALON LINK TO MELANOMA

Studies show you don't even have to be exposed to it for 20 years to have an increased risk. want proof? http://www.aad.org/public/News/NewsR...y/Exposure.htm (that study was done over a period of 2 weeks and they were able to see an increased risk)

STUDIES DOCUMENT NEED TO IMPROVE TEENS' SUN PROTECTION ATTITUDES AND BEHAVIOR -- 52 (5): 249 -- CA: A Cancer Journal for Clinicians

And one final gem:
http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.ed...s/image003.jpg (I won't post the image because it's a bit gross)

ok i'm tired of googling now. but you get the idea.
post #42 of 51
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Originally Posted by begret View Post
Well, I'm a diff. Jenn, but I feel the same way. Also I'm older I NEVER purposely laid in the sun, but was outdoors running,climbing, motos, biking, way outside! I always wore sunscreen and was covered up within reason, blah blah blah. I have fair skin that burns and tans, green eyes, reddish gold hair . (now ahem, whitish blonde)
I go to the dermatologist once every couple months to get checked for skin cancers .i've had a couple removed that were actually cancers, not just pre cancerous spots.
Here's the punch line . In order to remove all the 'bad' parts of a skin cancer the size of this> 0 they have to leave a big white scar the size of this>


O

Yep, a teeny freckle gets dug out 1/4 deep and that big . This is on my neck, a lot of times the only part that was sticking out! OK I'm done.

yay another smart jenn! ouch, that must have hurt. My mom has had that done too... having skin gouged out is nothing I would look forward too
post #43 of 51
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Originally Posted by lauriebell View Post
yay another smart jenn! ouch, that must have hurt. My mom has had that done too... having skin gouged out is nothing I would look forward too
It didn't hurt really, but it leaves a scar that is PURE white, I was always careful to cover up, too! And NONE of this showed up until I was in my 40's!
post #44 of 51
Thread Starter 
ok ok, i started this thread obviously for people who do tan and don't feel strongly against it
post #45 of 51
sorry for hijacking!

(ps i'll admit to it... i used to go tanning too. then i saw what it did to people later on in their lives)
post #46 of 51
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Originally Posted by colorthecoast View Post
ok ok, i started this thread obviously for people who do tan and don't feel strongly against it
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I really wasn't meaning to bash tanning! Sorry I know the risks and I have to admit I'll go every now and then, cause I don't get too much sun otherwise. But there are truths and I was just trying to make a point that if you're going to do it at least be educated about it so you can minimize the damage caused.
post #47 of 51

Tanning

I used to work at a tanning salon myself, more importantly, I love tanning!! I find the one that works best for me is Almost Famous (I think Australian Gold) It's pricy but smells great and it is definately worth the money. It has a type three bronzer in it which gives you a darker tan but I found that it didn't streak. Another one that isn't as expensive but has a type 2 bronzer which is not as strong is Sun Dreams. And if I'm too poor or too lazy to get to the tanning salon I have found that the glow or airbrush tanning booths are excellent. They don't fade very well (blotchy) but they are an awesome temporary solution. I was afraid of them being orange but they won't turn you any color that your natural skin won't allow for, just make sure you exfoliate really well before and after using them because unlike a real tan they will wash off especially around areas where the skin is dry and sensitive.
post #48 of 51
I work at a tanning salon (like I said before), and yes....Any kind of red, tan, whatever in the skin is damage. The only thing about indoor tanning vs outdoor is that indoor is more controlled. i.e. you can decide how long you are getting exposed to UV for and you know the strength/watts. It absolutely causes damage to the skin, I'm not gonna sit here and say that it doesn't. BUT....for people who live in areas that don't see the sun as often as other places (like me in OREGON!), a little bit of indoor tanning can even be good for your health (not being depressed in the winter, vitamin d, clearing up skin...).

Mystic tan is of course the way to go if you want that instant tan without the UV. And contrary to what people may think, if the employees at the salon know what they're doing/saying, you SHOULD NOT get orange/blotchy/streaky! Although, everyone's skin is different and takes in different amounts of DHA (what mystic is made of that makes you tan), but again, the employees should know what they're doing enough to not make you orange! Mystic really can look very good if you get it done the right way!

If anyone has questions about tanning you can PM me! I'm not a know-it-all, just familiar with some of the info on tanning.
post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by crystalcampbell_15 View Post
I used to work at a tanning salon myself, more importantly, I love tanning!! I find the one that works best for me is Almost Famous (I think Australian Gold) It's pricy but smells great and it is definately worth the money. It has a type three bronzer in it which gives you a darker tan but I found that it didn't streak. Another one that isn't as expensive but has a type 2 bronzer which is not as strong is Sun Dreams. And if I'm too poor or too lazy to get to the tanning salon I have found that the glow or airbrush tanning booths are excellent. They don't fade very well (blotchy) but they are an awesome temporary solution. I was afraid of them being orange but they won't turn you any color that your natural skin won't allow for, just make sure you exfoliate really well before and after using them because unlike a real tan they will wash off especially around areas where the skin is dry and sensitive.
I just went to a conference on tanning and an AG rep talked to us and one of the lotions was Almost Famous I won a lotion by AG called Crystal....I LOVE IT! It has TEN different bronzers in it and does not make you orange or streaky at all! Some AG products kinda suck imo cause some are kinda cheap, but the Almost Famous and Crystal are AMAZING!
post #50 of 51

Product?

Well.... I'm definately a sucker for a product that has my name in it!! Isn't Almost Famous a great lotion? I was so impressed with the bronzing power but no streaking at all, not even around the fingernails, the only thing was to be careful about clothing afterwards. About this Crystal one does it have a bronzer in it too?
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