These are a size 32 so actually I went up a size from a normal seven stretch size 31. The rise seems higher. I may be in trouble after a few hours wear since they prob will fall off my butt since they went on too easy, no struggle or stretching out required on these babies LOL. I think I'll keep them as they are really comfy!! And the inseam is good for me, since I'm always looking for longer length A pockets!
Sometimes I find that when people say to size down I stay with my normal size and they fit fine. Does anyone have that prob too? However my thighs are beefy (thanks to riding horses for years) and my butt is kind of flat naturally (I love TR Joeys!!) so I think my thighs have a lot to do with me having to size up. Does that make sense? My normal Seven stretch size is 31, rigids like the HAV2 I go with a size 32, but with the sig stetches I can go with a size 30.