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post #51 of 85
10/16/06 at 5:12pm
I don't go to Target so I don't know but it wouldn't bother me much. Also, I don't think Saks & NM are going to drop TR. It's still a high quality brand. You don't see Issac Mizrahi's items being dropped cause their shoes are still expensive when I go look at them.
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post #52 of 85
10/16/06 at 6:31pm
If you dont go to Target how do you know the price simlarties? Also Issac has suffered loss since he has moved to Target because his Ready to Wear Business is No More. The only highend he can do is shoes an the Haute Couture stuff which isnt even shown just custom made at the studio in New York
Also Another example Luella Bartley she had promise an was highend then came out with a Target line an Saks dropped her like nylon Prada bag.
But No One has confirmed this TR rumor yet
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post #53 of 85
10/16/06 at 6:51pm
http://www.honestforum.com/showthrea...igion+tar get

a photo of TR's being sold at target in this thread.
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post #54 of 85
10/16/06 at 7:06pm
As I've said before, the fugliest Frankenstein looking patchwork jeans TRBJ has ever produced are showing up at Target.

Don't sweat it folks. It's definitely a bad marketing move for them to sell at Target, but these hideous things are going to tank and have a fairly short run at Target anyway, especially at $140ish...

Hopefully their run at Target will be short enough to where it doesn't completely kill off the brand's image. That's the only thing I'm really concerned about as an owner of this brand's jeans...
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post #55 of 85
10/16/06 at 7:13pm
I'm very disapointed in Diesel though. A private company like that has nobody to sell out to. What the hell gives?
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post #56 of 85
10/16/06 at 7:42pm
The Brand Image is Dead(if they are real TR) Wait till more ppl find out about this. I think they still maybe fake since Target just got sued by Coach for selling fake bags.
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post #57 of 85
10/16/06 at 8:21pm
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Originally Posted by LAHomme View Post
If you dont go to Target how do you know the price simlarties? Also Issac has suffered loss since he has moved to Target because his Ready to Wear Business is No More. The only highend he can do is shoes an the Haute Couture stuff which isnt even shown just custom made at the studio in New York
Also Another example Luella Bartley she had promise an was highend then came out with a Target line an Saks dropped her like nylon Prada bag.
But No One has confirmed this TR rumor yet

It was stated earlier in the thread that they were being sold for $149.99. That's how much off 5th sell them for.

Either way, it's just a class thing that it seems like you're worried about. I would understand if the TRs were being sold for like $69.99 but it's not. Even if it's "mainstream" it really wouldn't make much of a difference imho. Most people buy from ebay anyway.
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post #58 of 85
10/16/06 at 8:58pm
none being sold in Iowa. we dont even have a greatlands....
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post #59 of 85
10/17/06 at 11:26am
I heard on another forum that Target is selling fakes, and True Religion has started a lawsuit against them. I have no idea if this is accurate.
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post #60 of 85
10/17/06 at 8:18pm
I haven't made up my mind about this yet but I don't want to shop for "high-end" stuff when I go to Target. I go there to shop for toiletpaper, drugstore makeup, diapers, or trendy stuff that I'll wear 10 times at most & fits pretty well. When I leave Target I want my total bill to be $149.99, not one pair of jeans...I'll get those somewhere else for those

Also, I just can't imagine my babywipes, diaper, & designer denim in the same cart.
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post #61 of 85
10/18/06 at 10:21am
I saw them at one of the Targets near me ( not everyone carries them) At first they had a few antiks, and joes cords too. Now the reack just has TR and Diesel.. they were real IMO and were for sale for $149.99 which as someone pointed out is no different from Saks OFf 5th... The styles were all 100% cotton that I saw and were the medium premium destroyed joeys and medium clearwater joeys... ( only like 2 pairs left of the latter)
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post #62 of 85
10/18/06 at 5:19pm
actually, the coach bags weren't fake, it's just that target is not an authorized seller of them. Basically, a coach brand rep unloaded ton of bags to target (or target got them via marshall fields) and coach corporate realized after the factwhat bad decision this was. the bags were authentic, just not authorized. Pretty much the same as how ashford.com sells authentics they just aren't authorized by say, fendi, therefore you don't get the warranty and such that you would by buying authentics. Along the same linbes of finding premium denim at tj maxx...they aren't an authorized seller, but it doesn't make the jeans fake.
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post #63 of 85
10/18/06 at 5:54pm
Tibi what you dont know what the hell you are taking about. Google Coach Target an you will see TONS of CREDIBLE sources that tell about Target selling fake bags. Coach is suing Target. There is no such thing as a Coach Brand Rep. I used to work for Coach I would know. Target just like many low tier an midlevel stores have ppl in the corprate ranks who know nothing about fashion,real/fake etc,brand names,etc. Marshall Fields wouldnt transfer bags from one to the other because they are treated as completely seperate companies they share nothing! As for Fendi they were fake at Sams Club as well Walmart was buying from someone who wasnt Fendi Authorized. Again those execs no nothing about fashion brands. Tell me How Sams can sell a 5k Fendi Spy with Alligator trim from this season for under $1,000? The answer is they cant! Its not financially possible
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post #64 of 85
10/18/06 at 6:16pm
WELL NOW IT IS OFFICAL AN THANK GOD THE TRUE RELIGION JEANS AT TARGET ARE FAKE YES! YES! YES! NOW I CAN GO BACK TO SAKS IN BLISS! I EMAILED TRUE RELIGION AN THIS WAS THEIR ANSWER:

Dear True Religion Online Customer,

We are aggressively investigating the appearance of True Religion Brand
Jeans selling at Target stores, an unauthorized channel not sold by
True Religion Apparel, Inc. We suspect that some counterfeit goods are
circulating here in the United States and the Company is actively working
with Federal and State agencies to identify the source and to prohibit
these goods from entering the country.

Kind Regards,

Customer Service
True Religion Online
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post #65 of 85
10/18/06 at 6:23pm
Hmm, interesting...
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post #66 of 85
10/18/06 at 6:50pm
^^very interesting...hmmm...
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post #67 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:10pm
yes, coach is suing target for ALLEGEDLY selling fake bags. But none of us know whether they are fake or not.
I dont see how anybody here can decide that.
But, those ugly Tr's on the racks at Target are real - like it or not.

It is actually incredibly easy for a store like Target to purchase luxury items. Not that I believe those items belong in Target but its perfectly legal for them to buy and sell them even if they are not an authorized seller. They simply have to buy from a third party seller like Macys. How do you think TJ maxx , Filenes, and Marshalls (who are nt authorized sellers) sell designer jeans so cheap. They get them from departments stores, boutiques, etc.

Of course Coach would be upset that their bags are being sold in a mainstream discount chains because it cheapens the image of their products. But it isnt against the law for Target or Wal-Mart to sell high-end luxury items, even if the designers don't want them to.
And just because Coach and TR say Target is not an authorized seller doesnt mean they can't possibly be selling them in their stores.

Anyway, I am not saying whether or not those Coach bags are real or fake because I would have no way of knowing. But I am saying that just because Coach is suing Target and its all over the news, it doesnt say a damn thing about authenticity.
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post #68 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:24pm
Ah yes it does. Coach isnt suing because Target sold the bags its because they are fake! Its on cnn,washington post,ny times,etc. Distribution isnt anything for these companies to handle Target isnt a TjMaxx its ran differently Target doesnt specialize in past season merchandise TJ Maxx does so I wouldnt question authentcity there.
Its the exact same situation with Fendi/Walmart Fendi didnt sue for selling it was becuase Fendi (they make the bags they would know) Determined they were fake. That was a Call By Fendi. Thats all that matters if you dont belive the company that makes the product then I dont know what you can believe. Feel Free to Contact True Religion You will get the same response First Coach is suing over fake bags,True Religion is suspecting Counterfeit, Dont be surprised if Diesel & Antik come foward next.
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post #69 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:27pm
I was under the assumption that TR authorized and issued a wholesale account to Target as a marketing ploy.

If they attained the merchandise through a 3rd party wholesaler or liquidator, then yeah, this would probably fall under the first sale doctrine I would imagine...
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post #70 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:36pm
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Ah yes it does. Coach isnt suing because Target sold the bags its because they are fake! Its on cnn,washington post,ny times,etc.
Coach is suing Target for ALLEGEDLY selling counterfeit bags. I can sue you for allegedly running over my cat with a lawnmower - it doesnt necessarily mean you did it.


I know what TR and Coach allege. And no you can't always believe the companies. none of those companies want their items being sold anywhere except at their authorized retailers. That is the reason TR VERO shuts down the AUTHENTIC items being sold on ebay. If you tell TR or any other manufacturer of designer/luxury items that you bought one of their items on ebay, TJ Maxx, whatever - they will tell you they can only guarantee authenticity if it was bought from an authorized reseller. Target is not an authorized reseller so of course you were going to get an answer like you did.

But AGAiN, I have no idea whther the Coach bags are fake or not, but it is quite possible that they are real. yes, even though coach is suing target.
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post #71 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:44pm
I knew there was no way Diesel would authorize wholesale accounts to Target.

TR on the other hand, as a publicly traded company, has an obligation to increase earnings growth and stock value for their shareholders...

I kind of expected them to sell out their brand image for the potential of higher volume sales...
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post #72 of 85
10/18/06 at 7:46pm
I would bet my bottom doller the TR I saw at Target was real real real... if it wasnt it is the best damn fake copy I have ever seen and nothing like what we see as fake on line and on ebay and other fake sites...
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post #73 of 85
10/18/06 at 8:06pm
I dont think being publically traded has anything to do with it Gucci is publically traded an they dont have those problems so is Louis Vuitton,Dior,Fendi (LVMH) an they are whoring themselves so being public or private doesnt matter they all have ppl who run that stuff in the corporation
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post #74 of 85
10/18/06 at 9:22pm
I didn't see any TRs but I did see these at Target: Mossimo brand...
Flap pockets, twisted seams, and the button coin pocket...
http://www.target.com/gp/detail-tab-...ditionalImages
or this one
http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...sin=B000G1BXEU
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post #75 of 85
10/18/06 at 9:42pm
In all of my observations, TR is the most copied and ripped-off designer out there.

Mossimo is absolutely shameless.
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