These were Michelle's (nbgrme? sorry for screwing up your name girl) I think. She had them on the HMAll, but they they went to ebay cause no one wanted them--sheesh now everyone does eh?!! I though about them too but I have the clearwater sammy crops which I love. Everyone needs to get a sammy crop!!! Size wise it depends on the wash--some run big, some small, and some TTS.
Oh BTW I finally got some DPE Johnny's (sz 31--but stretch so not sure about the clinginess--recall I only prefer rigids in TR) But heck I'll try them since ba-Nanners recommends them...YIPPEEE!!!! If I get them soon and they look good on butt I'll post pics too!