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Is this real? Inner tag made in italy and made in thailand.
















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fake

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ThanKs
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Hey guys, I have a question - Are these authentic judging by the photos we have here?

 

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Originally Posted by TheKid13 View Post

These look legit guys?

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/281545566884?nav=SEARCH

Yes, authentic pair
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Do you guys think these are authentic? Are they worth the 60 euro price tag?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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yes, authentic (all details are as should be).

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Thavar 886b 28/32

Take a look on this pair. Its look like the fake diesel from the french seller  from ebay.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jean-Diesel-THAVAR-886B-W28-L-32-100-Neuf-RARISSIME-Shioner-Thanaz-/111594577111?pt=FR_V%C3%AAtements_pour_hommes&hash=item19fb8e1cd7

 

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What do you think?

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is it authentic diesel t-shirt ??

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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looks authentic

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Originally Posted by Shlomi View Post

Thavar 886b 28/32
Take a look on this pair. Its look like the fake diesel from the french seller  from ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jean-Diesel-THAVAR-886B-W28-L-32-100-Neuf-RARISSIME-Shioner-Thanaz-/111594577111?pt=FR_V%C3%AAtements_pour_hommes&hash=item19fb8e1cd7

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What do you think?

Fake as hell, not even close to 886b.
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Is this jeans authentic ?

 

 

 

 

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yes those kids diesels look legit

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by rcom440 View Post


Fake as hell, not even close to 886b.

 

i think you may be right about it being fake....though I would say it is close to 886b...this is a tough one to call without the microstamp photo. photos are fuzzy..prob on purpose to confuse people. Though a lot of details are on point, there are one or two things that are not right. This certainly could be an irregular pair, but I would not take a chance on it.---rivet is missing from outseam area of coin pocket. distressing is done in a manner different than most other 886b i have seen. color is slightly off but I do remember seeing some authentic darker grey 886b before. Leather back waist patches were sometimes the same color and other times mismatched colors. If it turns out to be fake, it is actually a very good one (as far as a fake could be good)--but on the off chance it could be an IRR pair, id say ask for the microstamp photo to see if it is foil or an actual stamp---looks like it could be this pair here actually http://www.laboiteatendances.com/art-jean-diesel-thavar-886b-4639.htm
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Jeanetic, they are 100% fake. Even thavar cut is inaccurate. I actually have 886b and those jeans in pics slomi posted scream fake.
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Authentic 886b


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Originally Posted by rcom440 View Post

Jeanetic, they are 100% fake. Even thavar cut is inaccurate. I actually have 886b and those jeans in pics slomi posted scream fake.

yes I agreed with you. and I also was 886b owner...you missed my point. I said they are probably the most "accurate" a fake as I have ever seen for Diesel.  I even posted a link to the website where I bet the fakes came from. 

My point was this: with those fuzzy and dark photos, it is best to get a clearer pic plus microstamp photo from a seller before taking a chance on something like that. I never disputed they were not real. I just remarked on how close they got to the real thing.

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also, what are you pointing to in that picture on top? Are you trying to point something out in the photo?

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Oh ok.
Yeah there is that diagonal seem that is present in all thavar jeans and I think it's missing in the pic posted by Shalomi.
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Originally Posted by rcom440 View Post

Oh ok.
Yeah there is that diagonal seem that is present in all thavar jeans and I think it's missing in the pic posted by Shalomi.

Earlier I stated I was not disputing your claim they were not real. But I just looked at the ebay listing photos and changed my mind.

 

And I thought that stitching is what you were pointing to. But that diagnonal hem IS present on the pair posted by shalomi. I mean quite literally the only detail differences are the missing rivet on coin pocket plus color of denim which could be from lighting and the distressing (which is done by hand anyways) is not done in then same manner as other 886b i have seen. This pair could very well could turn out to be IRR. Believe me, I have seen 886b in darker grey than yours or mine. This pair could turn out to be 100% legit. You may not think so but I know so. You say they did not get the cut right, that is absurd. The cut looks fine. 

 

They have these "fake" markets in China where you can buy knock-offs (high quality knockoffs) of designer goods. One in particular is a whole mall filled with these high quality knock offs. The materials used are good, the details are on point, etc. This could very well come from a place like that, but I doubt it. Because I just looked through the actual ebay listing for this item. The more I looked at the pics, the more I am becoming convinced this pair may be real. It requires a microstamp photo for verification. The photos are still fuzzy in the ebay listing but with the zoom there is enough there to make a determination of probably real. --get the seller to give us microstamp for verification and NEVER buy jeans from a seller who is using fuzzy photos,(could mean they are trying to hide something).

So I wish Id have looked at the ebay listing pics before commenting. Otherwise Id have given the determination the item is probably real in the first place. @Shlomi they are more than likely real, but Irregular. Irregular pairs are authentic, but have some reason they have been selected to not be sold at retail. There are many variations to IRR pairs: (meaning something happened to them in production such as missing rivets, mis-stitched somewhere, wrongly labeled Darron on a Viker cut, wrong size labeled, etc). But none of that means they are not real. Also, for this pair in question, I require the microstamp photo from the seller before making the official determination on them. It would also be good for the seller to provide you with actual clear photos so you can determine if any other visible defects could be present.  

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If you take a look on ebay, you will see some thavar 886b, 801c, shioner 74y from France. I bought from him last year and I have to say that these pairs are amazing FAKE diesel, and if you didn't know diesel as much you are - You was sure its 100% authentic!

I was returned it to him, and will never buy diesel on "deal" from french seller without real pics of EVERY details!!!

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Originally Posted by Shlomi View Post
 

If you take a look on ebay, you will see some thavar 886b, 801c, shioner 74y from France. I bought from him last year and I have to say that these pairs are amazing FAKE diesel, and if you didn't know diesel as much you are - You was sure its 100% authentic!

I was returned it to him, and will never buy diesel on "deal" from french seller without real pics of EVERY details!!!

Yes, it very well may be one of those really spot on fakes. So you bought from this particular seller before? If so, did you post feedback for the transaction stating you were sold fake Diesel? If not, then why not? You should do so immediately to help deter people from getting scammed. Do you have better photos of the fakes you were sent?  When people ask us for advice on authenticity of items we take it seriously. We never want to give a yes or no based on fuzzy or dark photos. So no matter what, if you have a question about a pair, then get clearer pics and a microthread photo. But without that we will not officially call any pair fake nor real. The reason is because it is not fair to the seller. A buyer could have a vendetta against a seller and want to smear the sellers name by saying online that his stuff is fake. Say , for example, you wanted to return an item to this seller but his policy said "no returns".  Supposed you asked for an exception to that rule but were given a firm "no" for an answer. Pretend that you are pissed off at the seller and want to get back the seller for not giving you your way. So you (or anyone in this situation) could then just go online and start blasting the seller in the forums saying that their items are fake. I am not saying this is what happened here. I am just saying this type of thing can happen and has happened before. We take this seriously because it can effect peoples business. So, people who authenticate here are very careful before saying one way or another. A very good fake can be hard to spot or can be very easy to spot.  But all of the details come together to form the real thing, with the microstamping usually being the final determinant on tough ones such as the ones above.  

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Originally Posted by Shlomi View Post

If you take a look on ebay, you will see some thavar 886b, 801c, shioner 74y from France. I bought from him last year and I have to say that these pairs are amazing FAKE diesel, and if you didn't know diesel as much you are - You was sure its 100% authentic!
I was returned it to him, and will never buy diesel on "deal" from french seller without real pics of EVERY details!!!
I bought 801c from ebay last year.. What should I be looking for to check if they are authentic?
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Originally Posted by jeanetic View Post

A buyer could have a vendetta against a seller and want to smear the sellers name by saying online that his stuff is fake.

There was some guy who bought jeans from James on eBay and try to scam him. He was posting that his stuff is fake and when he was asked to post pics he refused. Then when James said he can return the item and get full refund, the buyer said he doesn't have time. He was demanding some of his money back while keeping the item. I think eventually he got banned from this forum.

I know for a fact James sells legit stuff as I already ordered some jeans for him and I highly recommend him.
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