Official Authenticity Superthread - Page 324

I'm just curious, are there any Viker 8EB owners that can provide some original pics of their examples. I'm way from being a Viker expert, but from the first look I thought they are real. Italian stitching looks good imo. I haven't found pics of these Vikers on google picture search. at least no really good pics.

I'm not an expert and I'm not an owner
these are from an ebay legit seller
you can tell he difference by yourself...

If you look at that pic the seller has pulled the material up at the seat to make the jeans sit better thats why the pockets look close together. honestly i'm so confident that those are real, if someone sends me the link to the auction, I will buy them myself and post pics of the microstitching.

the ones that I had already bought had only two small pictures of a small portion of the jeans. i just wanted a 2nd opinion.

I've owned over 1000 pairs of authentic diesels over the past 5 years so i'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about atleast 95% of the time. There are some newer washes and things that went only to europe that I've never seen before so thats why i post things in here from time to time.

Im pretty sure i'm qualified to say that a pair that i can easily tell is real, is authentic.

Ryan,

I thought these 8EBs were real too at first, but after a closer examination of the ones posted and my own pair of Viker 8EBs, it looks like they most likely are not real.

Here is a detailed comparison of the two. If you look at the positioning of belt loops and the D patch relative to the back pockets, you can see that something is wrong regarding the construction. Even if these were altered in some way, this positioning shouldn't be this far off.




The front looks pretty spot on though:



Overall, the wash looks a bit suspect too. I chalked it up to wear and fading, but the denim just doesn't seem as nice either, even with the fading.

Definitely ask for microstitching pictures from the lister and that will solve all the problems- I still hesitate to say they are 100% fake because of the limited release of the 8EB wash in general. Usually jean forgers will go after more popular releases, and 8EB wasn't all that popular or well-known of a wash, despite it's release in 4 cuts: paddom, slammer, viker and nahob.

Sorry Ryan, disqualified again. Having not seen a particular wash is not an excuse for not being able to tell wether it is authentic or not (it is different with cuts though). And regarding the pair you bought: those little pics were more than enough to tell how fake they are. I am quiet astonished that you cant tell real from fake after having owned 1000 "authentic" Diesels. Should we do some authentication on them?

I never took a closer inspection of a pair of Viker 8EBs, nonetheless I am able to tell that the pair in question is fake.
1. The material looks cheesy, nothing that can be accounted for by wash and wear. One of the most important points. Diesel denim quality is high, a pair that looks like poor quality most likely is fake.
2. The cut itself looks off, Darnoc made it pretty clear now. Biodiesel gave the first hint, you still didnt notice. Btw. that was the thing that made it certain for me that they are fake.

I admit though, that there are a lot of details present on that pair. It is of higher quality, in particular regarding wash/whiskers, than the average Zathan 772 fake that even Joe Average can tell that its fake. But it is still far from being missed with a real one.

^Darnoc: Why the fuck did you neg Bios post? He was completely right about backpocket placement. You even admited and elaborated that yourself.

^ I did that prior to comparing the 2 jeans thoroughly when I still felt they were authentic- no way to reverse it.

You're right though, those are a pretty good fake- we'll definitely have to be on the lookout for other well done rip-offs as well

^darnoc: you can reverse it, just switch your vote

I stand corrected- fixed

Someone send me a link to that pair, I will buy them

Those are real Viker 8EB wtf is wrong with you guys...

Diesel is not known to respect placement of loops/patches and or coin pocket sizing between pairs you should know this by know, not even the same sizes have the same measurements.

Well, it took me a while, but I did find an authentic pair with the same back patch and belt loop placement as the 8EBs in question:

Diesel jeans Viker 8GZ 34 / 34 BNWT - eBay (item 200341906351 end time Jun-12-09 09:46:33 PDT)

The other 100 Vikers I looked at had the proper lineup of belt loop and pocket, but I guess anything is possible.

I guess my question to the original OP is, even if these are real would you really want a pair of supe washed-out Viker 8EBs anyways?

Tico are you nuts? Variations are one thing, those Viker 8EB pretenders are another. Inter-wash variations can be bigger/more noticeable, intra-wash variations are much smaller.

The Viker 8GZ is just a very big size, maybe a bit misplaced, wash seems off as well. Maybe a factory second.

Compare youself and take close look at spacing between outer edge of the pockets and outseam. Viker 8GZ pic is taken from the auction Darnoc posted.









FAKE. Period.

i would like mike( treasurehoard) opinión on this pair.

Von i dont think those loops and patches are misplaced at all, if you see the distance between the patch and the loop you can see that its the same in both pair, and the distance from the loop and the italy flag is also the same, if you compare the placement of the patch based on the pockets you will have a huge difference because of the waist size of the pant, thats the reason for the difference you point out.
Tag pics would end this right now.

that said remind me not to buy any Diesels from those who think those Vikers are real.

Lol.

^Tico: Pocketsize increases with waist size.

if youd like to dispute the authenticity of any pair of jeans I have listed go right ahead. i'd like to see you try.

Are these 8cms real...? I can't really see the microstitching and there is no MADE IN ___ under the size. sigh;;

^ REAL

Thanaz 8CM is made in Morocco, so there is no Made in Italy writing below the Mohawk.

Back pockets are ok.

Hi Im new to this, can anyone help, Im trying to figure out if my Gregg jacket is real or not, It looks like micro stitching with something in it onthe back of the label at the back of the neck & has made in Italy plus model Nos etc on tags at the waist band, would be gratefull for your tips..

Hi can anyone help me ? im trying to authenticate my Gregg jacket It has what appears to be micro stitching on the reverse of the label at back of the collar & made in Italy plus model Nos etc at waist band but I realy dont know what to look for....

Welcome to the forum.

Btw, pictures would helpful for authentication tasks...

Sorry as I said im new to this but here goes