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post #2 of 110

Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

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Originally Posted by honestdave
I wanted to add a few things in here from my own observations. If you see a little red tag on the back inside waistline then the jeans are FAKE! If you see the indian head tag on the back of the jeans (under you butt if you were sitting down) instead of under the front pocket, also FAKE!

Be aware that most kratt models being sold currently are fakes, as this model has been long discontinued.

If you see a jean which is listed as cardiel, go to the diesel website to see what real cardiels look like. They have only one back pocket, and bucket-style front pockets. Also, they have no inner cloth tags.

If you see a jean which is listed as x-rotuck and does not look like the real x-rotucks listed on http://www.honestwiki.com then stay away. Real x-rotucks NEVER have the leather diesel logo on the back beltline, nor do cardiels.

Many jeans purporting to be 'x-rotuck' and 'cardiel' which are in fact replicas have been spotted on ebay. WATCH OUT! If you want to see what a real x-rotuck looks like in terms of the SHAPE of the jeans, do an ebay search for

x-rotuck 80Q

The 80Q wash for x-rotuck has never been bootlegged to my knowledge. Notice the double top waistline buttons and the flare leg. Any x-rotucks missing these two key attributes are fake.

New diesels have a new-style patch on the back waistline with a D across it. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A RED STITCHED D ON THE BACK POCKET AND THIS PATCH AT THE SAME TIME! It's always one or the other.

A real seller will have diesels in every size diesel makes, most notably inseams 30, 32 and 34. If you see anything longer than 36 and this is on a tag, its FAKE. Diesel sometimes makes garments longer than 34 inseam, but then the inseam simply wont be listed. Also look for odd waist sizes such as 29, 31 and 33 which diesel DOES make. If you see a seller who has lots of diesels and always in nice sizes like 38x32, 36x32, 34x32, 32x32, and 30x32, be careful.

Never buy any diesel jeans from a seller in any of the following countries: Thailand, Hong Kong, China, Turkey or Bulgaria.

Finally, INSIST on seeing CLEAR closeup photos of the indian head tag and make sure that the metalic strip looks right (see the honestwiki link above for examples). Lack of this tag entirely is a dead ringer.
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Thanks alot for the info! Any other things I can do to check for the authenticity of the jeans?
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Originally Posted by diesel_dreamz
Thanks alot for the info! Any other things I can do to check for the authenticity of the jeans?
Not that I can think of off the top of my head...
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you can also solve this problem by buying directly from the diesel stores and wholesalers to help keep the scene alive. if you live in a different area, call a diesel store with your size and fit/wash in mind and they'll be more than happy to send them to you 2 day air. ebay sucks.
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Originally Posted by circa78
you can also solve this problem by buying directly from the diesel stores and wholesalers to help keep the scene alive. if you live in a different area, call a diesel store with your size and fit/wash in mind and they'll be more than happy to send them to you 2 day air. ebay sucks.
A couple of problems with this: 1) Not everyone has an ebay store near them. This especially applies to folks living outside the US 2) 90% of wholesalers are ALSO selling fakes, 3) Diesel stores will not have older models etc etc

I agree that under perfect circumstances everyone would buy their diesels from the store but this simply is not always feasable. Plus, diesel stores rarely sell things discounted at all, and there are those of us (like me ) who like to save money on things on general principle or because they see it as their duty to themselves to be smart consumers...
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watch out for fake blm14 indian heads
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Please keep your uncut and dry fingernails outside of the thread.
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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist
Please keep your uncut and dry fingernails outside of the thread.
Hahahah what can I say I bite my nails
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Re: Real vs. Fake Zathan 772

Could you tell me if the information I have been told is correct, I have bought a pair of zathan 772 jeans on e-bay and think that they are fake. The denim is awful and very thick and very dark. I have been told;
1. Diesel never sell their jeans in plastic bags
2. there should not be an 'R' in a round circle before the diesel industry logo on the coin pocket
3. there should be micro stitching on the inside label where the indian mohican head is not a cheap, thin silver line.
4. there should be numbers stitched into the actual cotton on top of this mohican head.
Also they advertised them as NEW IN RARE DIESEL ZATHAN 772 ART BOOTCUT JEANS. I have looked at diesel official website at www.diesel.co.uk and the zathan 772 jeans that they have advertised are different in respect that the colour and design of the stitching on the back pockets, button holes and belt loops are different. Should the jeans that I recieved be the same or does this mean that mine are definately fake.

I have also purchased a pair of diesel cherone jeans and have been told that they are fake because on the little tag that specifies the fabric it does not state ART something for example Art 772. The Zathan 772 jeans' fabric tag states Art 772. Do all diesel jeans irrespective of model or type have to state Art something on the fabric tag in order for them to be authentic.
Finally on the same fabric tag on the Zathan 772 jeans at the bottom it states 'Data 27/08/03' - what does this mean - is this when the jeans were made?
Please help - am I being ripped off?
Jess
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Re: Real vs. Fake Zathan 772

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Originally Posted by jessyjames
Could you tell me if the information I have been told is correct, I have bought a pair of zathan 772 jeans on e-bay and think that they are fake. The denim is awful and very thick and very dark. I have been told;
1. Diesel never sell their jeans in plastic bags
2. there should not be an 'R' in a round circle before the diesel industry logo on the coin pocket
3. there should be micro stitching on the inside label where the indian mohican head is not a cheap, thin silver line.
4. there should be numbers stitched into the actual cotton on top of this mohican head.
Also they advertised them as NEW IN RARE DIESEL ZATHAN 772 ART BOOTCUT JEANS. I have looked at diesel official website at www.diesel.co.uk and the zathan 772 jeans that they have advertised are different in respect that the colour and design of the stitching on the back pockets, button holes and belt loops are different. Should the jeans that I recieved be the same or does this mean that mine are definately fake.

I have also purchased a pair of diesel cherone jeans and have been told that they are fake because on the little tag that specifies the fabric it does not state ART something for example Art 772. The Zathan 772 jeans' fabric tag states Art 772. Do all diesel jeans irrespective of model or type have to state Art something on the fabric tag in order for them to be authentic.
Finally on the same fabric tag on the Zathan 772 jeans at the bottom it states 'Data 27/08/03' - what does this mean - is this when the jeans were made?
Please help - am I being ripped off?
Jess
Wow! Lots of questions... Lets see what we can find out here:

First off, diesels are shipped overseas in bags, but these bags are LONG, large enough to fit the jeans folded in HALF. If the bag you got will only fit the jeans when they're folded into four, that's not good. The little R symbol on the coin pocket has no bearing on authenticity - different countries have different copyright laws so depending on where the jeans were made to sell they may or may not have that R. All the european ones dont whereas all the US ones do, for instance. All zathan 772s that I've seen DO have microstitching, so generally that is a good indicator of a fake if its missing. The head tag DOES have numbers stitched into it, but depending on how the tag is sewn into the jeans, you may or may not be able to see it, eg:



As far as the color & wash etc, there IS a lot of variation in diesel jeans. It would be easiest for us to see pix of the jeans or, if the listing pix are accurate, a link to the listing. Preferably both

The 'data' thing on the tag does in fact state the date of manufacture but even the fakes have this so that alone is not a proof of authenticity or not. Finally, as far as your cherones, some of the tags say LAV and some say ART instead. But all of the 772s are new enough so they should have ONE or the OTHER on the inner tags.

Post links to the auctions and/or photos of the jeans so we can render a final verdict!
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After looking at the pictures here, just directly looking at some of the jeans, i noticed that it's very hard to actually see if they are fake not looking at the tag that is. Today however I saw my first fake diesel 772, and boy! I saw them from a mile away how fake they were. A buddy of mine works at a place where they sell Diesels, and apparently somebody returned them to the store and the sales person didn't notice they were fake... He showed me them, and I started laughing right away, they were blatently fake, then we compared them side to side with a real pair, and there was no comparison. I'm really learning alot from this page, i'm glad it's around.
post #13 of 110
My friend has to have the WORST fakes i've seen. The white Diesel stripe on the coin pocket reads "Desel Industryies"
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I've noticed that a lot of fake sellers use "1 day" auctions. There must be some sort of reasoning behind this. Less chance of them getting caught by Ebay? Perhaps people not-in-the-know see this and JUMP on the BIY option?
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Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

Hi,
Is it true what he is here writing ? Is this a original ????????
I bought one from him and i was in DIesel Store last week and they did not have DIesel Lowky there .How can it be?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...y=54 471&rd=1


Thanks for the answer
post #16 of 110

Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elisabethemil
Hi,
Is it true what he is here writing ? Is this a original ????????
I bought one from him and i was in DIesel Store last week and they did not have DIesel Lowky there .How can it be?

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...y=54 471&rd=1


Thanks for the answer
There are some jeans which certain diesel stores never get and some which no diesel stores ever get, which instead go to the indie boutiques. It could also be that diesel stores just havent gotten them YET.
post #17 of 110

Check This page

Hi everybody,
Our firm is located in Europe / Germany and we ar one of the biggest Diesel stockists in Europe.
Check our Ebay Store and you will be surprised.

http://stores.ebay.de/TRENDSANDBRAND...QQftidZ1QQtZkm

Regards
Emil
post #18 of 110

Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

Hi!

My first post here..

I bought moorix jeans from Diesel store Helsinki month ago but there are no those "hard to read numbers" above indian head in these. Does that mean that these are fake? Microstitching looks authentic to me tho. Is it possible to buy fake stuff from official Diesel store?



And sorry for my bad english
post #19 of 110
I've never seen fake Diesel in their authentic store. (I wonder if there's any, why should people buy authentic Diesel, ha)
Btw, I've seen fake Zathan 772 in Nordstrom and Urban outfiter.
post #20 of 110
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narciso
I've never seen fake Diesel in their authentic store. (I wonder if there's any, why should people buy authentic Diesel, ha)
Btw, I've seen fake Zathan 772 in Nordstrom and Urban outfiter.
Yeah thats because diesel has a VERY stringent return policy. Also, you obviously havent been to the diesel stores in mexico
post #21 of 110

Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

Hi, most messages seem to be re fake diesel jeans - What about fake diesel jumpers/sweatshirts - I have recently bought a supposedly genuine Diesel jumper recently (yes, ebay) but have serious doubts about its authenticity - Has a badly stitched "diesel" label in the nape of the neck but NO Indian head tag?? Also, the general feel of the garment just feels wrong - Anyone shed any light on my purchase? Thumbs up or thumbs down?





Quote:
Originally Posted by blm14
Quote:
Originally Posted by honestdave
I wanted to add a few things in here from my own observations. If you see a little red tag on the back inside waistline then the jeans are FAKE! If you see the indian head tag on the back of the jeans (under you butt if you were sitting down) instead of under the front pocket, also FAKE!

Be aware that most kratt models being sold currently are fakes, as this model has been long discontinued.

If you see a jean which is listed as cardiel, go to the diesel website to see what real cardiels look like. They have only one back pocket, and bucket-style front pockets. Also, they have no inner cloth tags.

If you see a jean which is listed as x-rotuck and does not look like the real x-rotucks listed on http://www.honestwiki.com then stay away. Real x-rotucks NEVER have the leather diesel logo on the back beltline, nor do cardiels.

Many jeans purporting to be 'x-rotuck' and 'cardiel' which are in fact replicas have been spotted on ebay. WATCH OUT! If you want to see what a real x-rotuck looks like in terms of the SHAPE of the jeans, do an ebay search for

x-rotuck 80Q

The 80Q wash for x-rotuck has never been bootlegged to my knowledge. Notice the double top waistline buttons and the flare leg. Any x-rotucks missing these two key attributes are fake.

New diesels have a new-style patch on the back waistline with a D across it. YOU WILL NEVER SEE A RED STITCHED D ON THE BACK POCKET AND THIS PATCH AT THE SAME TIME! It's always one or the other.

A real seller will have diesels in every size diesel makes, most notably inseams 30, 32 and 34. If you see anything longer than 36 and this is on a tag, its FAKE. Diesel sometimes makes garments longer than 34 inseam, but then the inseam simply wont be listed. Also look for odd waist sizes such as 29, 31 and 33 which diesel DOES make. If you see a seller who has lots of diesels and always in nice sizes like 38x32, 36x32, 34x32, 32x32, and 30x32, be careful.

Never buy any diesel jeans from a seller in any of the following countries: Thailand, Hong Kong, China, Turkey or Bulgaria.

Finally, INSIST on seeing CLEAR closeup photos of the indian head tag and make sure that the metalic strip looks right (see the honestwiki link above for examples). Lack of this tag entirely is a dead ringer.
post #22 of 110

Re: How to spot fake DIESEL

Quote:
Originally Posted by ruskifm
Hi, most messages seem to be re fake diesel jeans - What about fake diesel jumpers/sweatshirts - I have recently bought a supposedly genuine Diesel jumper recently (yes, ebay) but have serious doubts about its authenticity - Has a badly stitched "diesel" label in the nape of the neck but NO Indian head tag?? Also, the general feel of the garment just feels wrong - Anyone shed any light on my purchase? Thumbs up or thumbs down?
I have never seen an indian head tag in garments other than jeans in the diesel store. Can you post us some pix of the item in question including some nice clear closeups of any inner tags? Thanks!
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item 1, 2, 4 & 5 are real

item 3 is FACK!
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Originally Posted by donnynsc
item 1, 2, 4 & 5 are real

item 3 is FACK!
Are you sure about #2? I did not find that seller on the REAL SELLER list (should of checked there first...silly me.) The price is $70 lower than retail..
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