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post #1 of 26
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Excuse me but it's hard to infer from only looking at your post...Is everything just going over your head? Ya you're writing that you respect their decisions, but you're responses seem like you have put almost no thought into them whatsoever.

"ya man i respect your decision dawg...good luck in the future homie"

And I haven't gotten a chance to read all the post about this subject, nor do i want to, but you've said that if the members/mods don't like the path this forum is headed they should just essentially leave. I do agree with this but don't YOU think when almost all of the staff has decided to leave; something is wrong? Sure this probably has been blown out of proportion and will be forgotten in a couple months but you've put all the past work of all the mods who decided to leave to shame.

My response a little bit out of anger because I've been a member for over a year now and this forum has grown to be a place that I've love and I feel that you've disrespected not only your mods, but also your members.

And I'll just leave it at that and finish my lunch.

Good luck Dave.
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post #3 of 26
Dear Dave
When I started coming to HF over a year ago, I found a place to learn, share about fashion, fakes, sales, and make friends with many like minded people. It was always a great deal of fun to learn about new things, and to use my own experience to help others in avoiding fakes, complete sales, deal with problem issues surrounding sales etc. I have enjoyed helping others, have written letters for members for Paypal refunds as well as policing the mall. For quite some time now this site has ceased to be any fun for me. The issues over the last few weeks have seriously disheartened me. The daily drama and lack of respect for the mods & their efforts here made me really start dreading coming to the site. I had hoped, like Pam, to wait it out, and see whether your words would transfer into actions and changes, but apparently those root issues of hasty decisions have not really changed.
I know I mentioned to you several days ago, though I doubt you noticed it, that old adage.."Act in Haste, Repent in Leisure" . It has a serious ring of truth, and I choose to heed those words as advice.
It is with a very heavy heart I apparently must ask you to de-mod me. In speaking with you yesterday I had asked for some time to consider this, and your ultimatum of 24 hours was not the amount of time I had in mind. I told you very plainly that I do not make decisions rashly or in haste, but rather much prefer to make well thought out decisions. I also advised you that it would be wise for you to do the same.
In reading the above posts, it seems that you have gotten very similar advice not only from the other former mods, but even earlier in the old 'mod section'. Wise Mikayla has given you very sound, good advice and I hope you will seriously take it to heart for your entire future well being, and not just that of this site.
I hope I am still welcome to come here and post. I will be available to answer my PMs and anyone is free to IM me or send an email if needed.
Thanks again.
Joan
post #4 of 26
luvapup i respect your decision.

aipume has stepped down as well.
post #5 of 26
I know I'm not a mod but I have experience running websites and forums. This sort of material you need to have disclosed and not open to the public. You're putting these moderators on the spot, and putting pressure into them making decisions. It is very hard to get moderators who are fair and well knowledge like these mods you have, and doing this does not help. There should have been a private board just for moderators so you and the moderators can exchange rules, thoughts, and ideas. The forum has been spiraling down, but please don't help it keep going down, instead see what has been the cause of so much negativity within the site.
post #6 of 26
Dave, please count me out.

Why? I must now leave because:

1) Each time I have tried to communicate with you, and sent you long, carefully composed, and heartfelt messages, you have fired back one-liners, pasted in text pointing me to a section of "updated mod rules," or given me back nothing more than a link to some other post;

2) I continue to be upset that, after our site was hacked, and I asked you to put out a general security note in Chat for all our users, you chose not to take that issue very seriously and not to do it. Your response to me was, approximately, "Oh, I don't think anyone's Paypal info has been stolen or whatever."

NOTE TO EVERYONE: I hope that you are not using the same login and password combo as you do here for Paypal, eBay, or any other sensitive financial information. This site was and may well still be compromised, maybe down to the Root level. My boyfriend does network security, and works with phpbb experts, and when they heard about the hacking here, their response was "Game over, man. Time to take the site offline and rebuild it because it is probably compromised at the Root level."

Dave, ever since the day you made me a mod without even first asking me if I was interested in it--I remember logging in one day, only to discover I'd been made a mod, which was initially confusing to me--it has become increasingly apparent to me that it is truly your preference to make decisions without the input of others, which even you admit is "too slow" a process for you. You also seem to view legitimate discussion and debate about various topics as "complaining," thus your recent addition of the word "Complaining" to the Drama section. I don't understand this sort of approach towards open discussion, as it is so different from my own. When people are upset about something, there is often a legitimate reason for it beyond the idea that they are "complaining." This is especially true when people are upset with YOU. Labelling them as "complainers" causes them to continue "complaining" because they are hoping that at some point, you might really take the time to talk to them about what they are upset about. Quick one-liners will never cut it when someone is angry or upset with you.

All the drama here this past week or so has been completely exhausting to me--as I'm sure it has been for you--so much so that I feel like I never want to come here again. To feel this way now is disappointing, to say the least. I once had so much fun here and believed that you were doing good things with your time and money.

I like what crmc05 said to you here:

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Originally Posted by crmc05
Excuse me but it's hard to infer from only looking at your posts...Is everything just going over your head? Ya you're writing that you respect their decisions, but your responses seem like you have put almost no thought into them whatsoever.

"ya man i respect your decision dawg...good luck in the future homie"

...don't YOU think when almost all of the staff has decided to leave; something is wrong?

Good luck Dave.
He said, "Don't you think when almost all of the staff has decided to leave that something must be wrong?" I've repeatedly asked if you'd noticed what all these interpersonal problems around you had in common: you. You told me you found this idea humiliating, but it wasn't meant that way, and it doesn't need to be a point of humiliation; rather, it could be an opportunity to change, to really change how all your interactions with other people go, to relieve all this pressure you must be feeling. This could be a really great thing for you, an amazing thing, a rewarding thing, a powerful thing. But you don't seem interested in this kind of change.

Well, here I am, really pouring my heart into a communication again, and I will probably once again get a one-line response from you.

Finally, I agree with what Pam, Pinchy, Mikayla, and Joan have said in this thread, and Ben in another. I've shared their feelings of frustration, as well as the feelings of frustration of other mods who have not chosen to post here. I agree with what mrstkeller said here, too, and I'm sorry for her that she got stuck in the middle of this ugliness. I am deeply sorry that things have turned out this way.

I have just de-modded myself, by unsubscribing to the Mod user group, so you don't have to do it for me.
post #7 of 26
damn. i messed up the split thing.

i am not going to continue arguing with any of you.

thank you for your decisions antik and aipume.
post #8 of 26
^whoa! Definitely not needed, but bet you five bucks she'll be the SFAM mod.
post #9 of 26
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he didn't kick them off. They decided to leave.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You obviously do not know how to read.
Not to condone the swearing, but yeah, I'm sure all the mods left because they couldn't work in the controlling environment that Dave had created, so he essentially forced them to leave.
post #10 of 26
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he didn't kick them off. They decided to leave.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You obviously do not know how to read.
Not to condone the swearing, but yeah, I'm sure all the mods left because they couldn't work in the controlling environment that Dave had created, so he essentially forced them to leave.
yep and its so obvious why people are sucking ass...But you cant moderate if their are no MEMBERS POSTING
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by staluckey

yep and its so obvious why people are sucking ass...But you cant moderate if their are no MEMBERS POSTING
So you noticed it, too? :P I never intended on leaving this forum for good, but there hasn't been any action so I've had to go to AF to procrastinate.
post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by yesino
^whoa! Definitely not needed, but bet you five bucks she'll be the SFAM mod.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
he didn't kick them off. They decided to leave.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You obviously do not know how to read.
Actually I do know how to read. So why don't you shut up?????
post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by staluckey
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Originally Posted by Cmercury1
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Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
he didn't kick them off. They decided to leave.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You obviously do not know how to read.
Not to condone the swearing, but yeah, I'm sure all the mods left because they couldn't work in the controlling environment that Dave had created, so he essentially forced them to leave.
yep and its so obvious why people are sucking ass...But you cant moderate if their are no MEMBERS POSTING
Again I'm not sucking up. I say what I feel, I don't say things to make people feel better. Be it Dave or anyone else. When I said I want to be the seven mod I was joking. I hope whoever Dave picks to be a mod, in any section is knowledgeable in that section. And whoever he picks, won't make me leave this site.
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
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Originally Posted by staluckey
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Originally Posted by Cmercury1
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Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
he didn't kick them off. They decided to leave.
SHUT THE FUCK UP. You obviously do not know how to read.
Not to condone the swearing, but yeah, I'm sure all the mods left because they couldn't work in the controlling environment that Dave had created, so he essentially forced them to leave.
yep and its so obvious why people are sucking ass...But you cant moderate if their are no MEMBERS POSTING
Again I'm not sucking up. I say what I feel, I don't say things to make people feel better. Be it Dave or anyone else. When I said I want to be the seven mod I was joking. I hope whoever Dave picks to be a mod, in any section is knowledgeable in that section. And whoever he picks, won't make me leave this site.
HAHAAH! YOU joking about being a mod, you are going to be the new Jay Leno, god knows you look like him. Who the hell jokes about being a mod? Obviously some people lack a wit.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by yesino
^whoa! Definitely not needed, but bet you five bucks she'll be the SFAM mod.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. OH, and I am Renne how does it feel being smashed upon by a 14 year old! Some people...
post #17 of 26
I don't feel smashed. Obviously you act like a 14 year old. And I'm sorry, but I don't look like Jay Leno.
post #18 of 26
This is just silly.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
I don't feel smashed. Obviously you act like a 14 year old. And I'm sorry, but I don't look like Jay Leno.
Who looks like Jay Leno??
post #20 of 26
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Originally Posted by IAmRenee
I don't feel smashed. Obviously you act like a 14 year old. And I'm sorry, but I don't look like Jay Leno.
Who looks like Jay Leno??
according to BubblyMasquerade, I do.
post #21 of 26
maybe iamrenee's avator looks like jay leno to the poster?
post #22 of 26
Aishwarya's hot :P
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by admin
damn. i messed up the split thing.

i am not going to continue arguing with any of you.

thank you for your decisions antik and aipume.
Wow, antik, you didn't even get a one- line of your own.
post #24 of 26
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Originally Posted by antik_freak
NOTE TO EVERYONE: I hope that you are not using the same login and password combo as you do here for Paypal, eBay, or any other sensitive financial information. This site was and may well still be compromised, maybe down to the Root level.
question. did ANYBODY else get their accounts hacked?

i am curious about this.
post #25 of 26
not that I know of. I have a 'repetoire' of passwords I use, and the one I did have for this forum, I use for pretty low level stuff.

Hey Maybe you could split this off and title a new thread, to get more responses.
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