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post #26 of 133
Myself, I like to have very nice things, but when it comes to who I hang out with, that doesn't really enter into the equation. Most of the girls in my sorority aren't really into high-end brands, which is what I love about out house; we pick girls based on personality, not handbags or cute jeans. My best friend in the world is completely mystified by my outrageous shopping habits, but we love each other just the same.
As for DATING, style is totally a factor in who I am responsive to. Dress is just one part of the attraction equation, but it definitely factors in. I completely admit to being shallow in that area. Other people have already touched on the point that it's not so much the brand you're wearing as how you wear it, and I totally agree with that. But come on, men in designer denim? You know it's hot.
post #27 of 133
I could easily repeat the same thing everybody else in this thread has said and portray a happy-go-lucky unrealistic, idealistic view of the world and tell you all that it doesn't matter what people wear because we're all the same inside and that we should value everybody as individuals and as humans.

And that's great. But I think I'll have more fun playing devils advocate.

By virtue of being here and participating in this forum, you care about the clothes you wear and you care about you look. Anybody on this forum who tells you otherwise is a flat out liar.

Anyway, people choose the clothes they wear, and to some degree or other, whether you want to admit it or not, the clothes a person wears are a reflection of the person wearing them. People who are a. not children and b. not disabled or incompetent in some way dress themselves. This means that they choose the clothes they wear - they choose things that they think look good and either reflect who they are or who they'd like to be. A person's choice of clothing is a representation of themself to the world.

Let's say (hypothetically) that I meet some girl who wears homie-g, ghetto-funk, for real dawg, my nigga type "urban" clothes. And for the sake of argument, let's just say I find her physically attractive. I don't think anybody here is arguing that I should overlook personality, similarity, lifestyle differences etc. And I don't think anybody here who is not retarded would even think to argue that this homie-g dawg gangsta is very much like me in any number of ways. It hardly needs mentioning that this gangsta princess has little in common with me. I was able to tell that by the clothes she was wearing, the way she did her hair and the way she did her makeup. You were able to too.

And let's just make up one more example. Let's say there is some normal kind of girl I meet - she doesn't really stick out in any kind of way like the last one, and let's just say, once again, for arguments sake, that she is reasonably physically attractive. Thing is, she seems kind of unkempt - her hair isn't done, her clothes are kind of baggy and don't really fit her too well and they're kind of wrinkly. Maybe she's having a bad day. Maybe she dresses like a "bohemian" - I don't know, you choose. But then I see her again on another day and on a third day - same thing. Maybe it shouldn't matter to me that she doesn't really care about designer fashion, much less what she looks like, but there are probably many more differences that stand between her and me. Differences in background, differences in values, differences in aspirations and goals, differences in ideas of what kind of lives we want to live, ideas of family and how to raise children, etc etc. Maybe if she was dressing like a bohemian, she has a totally different worldview and political ideologies than me. Maybe she wants to go live in the woods and live off the land. Maybe the differences are bigger or smaller - it is hard to tell in this situation, but it is possible that her clothes may have been indicative of greater and more significant differences between us.

Anyway, I've written more than enough. Time to stop for now.
post #28 of 133
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Funny, but your description makes me think of Helena Bonham Carter in Fight Club. I could switch teams for her (not really, but she has the whole bohemian look worked out to perfection)!

Anyway, my post was mostly about getting to know people before you judge them by the clothes. My b/f certainly didn't dress like my ideal guy when I met him and I have to admit that I'm very happy now that I took the time to know him better and not be influenced by his fashion sense.
Everyone here is talking about underdressing, but there is such a thing as overdressing to. He wore a freaking suit on a first date to a pub, and not just any suit, but some designer cream-off-white linen creation... in the middle of February. I was the one in Uggs and Old Navy jeans & tees.
post #29 of 133
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Everyone here is talking about underdressing, but there is such a thing as overdressing to.
Couldn't agree with you more. I remember in college and always seeing a group of girls who wore pretty revealing stuff, the kind of ensemble you would find in a club or a bar. I knew they were only wearing these outfits to try and impress the lads, I think everyone did. Looked silly and inapropriate. The point is that "overdressing" is just as bad as underdressing. I think why they did it was low self-esteam. IMO, they just attracted the wrong type of guys that way, and no girl wants a muppet. Shame really
post #30 of 133
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Everyone here is talking about underdressing, but there is such a thing as overdressing to.
and no girl wants a muppet. Shame really
lol. your brit accent is coming out in your writing and IMO brit accents are the hottest kind
post #31 of 133
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Everyone here is talking about underdressing, but there is such a thing as overdressing to.
and no girl wants a muppet. Shame really
lol. your brit accent is coming out in your writing and IMO brit accents are the hottest kind
don't even think about it
post #32 of 133
hehe no worries Jilian :P
post #33 of 133
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Everyone here is talking about underdressing, but there is such a thing as overdressing to.
and no girl wants a muppet. Shame really
lol. your brit accent is coming out in your writing and IMO brit accents are the hottest kind
I didn't know you can read accents! But I don't speak like those Londoners... eh! I hate they're accents
post #34 of 133
*their*
post #35 of 133
haha it was the shame really that i guess brought out the brit accent...my friend who moved to scotland 2 years ago now frequently uses it and brits are actually the only people i know who use it. it's i guess I think it's more Brit than anything else because it sounds proper. yeah i'm not too familiar with all the different accents depending on which part of Britain you're from but they all sound pretty good to me! and i def think it's way hotter than a canadian accent :P
post #36 of 133
you can definitely read your accent. british accent are hot. for sure. 'impress the lads'. lads? british. 'silly and inappropriate'? british-ish sounding, but some in america would say that. muppet? british. shame really? again, british.

post #37 of 133
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you can definitely read your accent. british accent are hot. for sure. 'impress the lads'. lads? british. 'silly and inappropriate'? british-ish sounding, but some in america would say that. muppet? british. shame really? again, british.

I thought we all spoke in the generic language that is internet English!? Oh well, nevermind
post #38 of 133
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you can definitely read your accent. british accent are hot. for sure. 'impress the lads'. lads? british. 'silly and inappropriate'? british-ish sounding, but some in america would say that. muppet? british. shame really? again, british.

I thought we all spoke in the generic language that is internet English!? Oh well, nevermind
only "lad" and "muppet" are british.
post #39 of 133
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you can definitely read your accent. british accent are hot. for sure. 'impress the lads'. lads? british. 'silly and inappropriate'? british-ish sounding, but some in america would say that. muppet? british. shame really? again, british.

I thought we all spoke in the generic language that is internet English!? Oh well, nevermind
only "lad" and "muppet" are british.
I know, but very few americans use the phrases 'shame, really' and 'silly and inappropriate.'

just commenting!
post #40 of 133
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I know, but very few americans use the phrases 'shame, really' and 'silly and inappropriate.'

just commenting!
no. those are not uncommon phrases.
post #41 of 133
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I know, but very few americans use the phrases 'shame, really' and 'silly and inappropriate.'

just commenting!
no. those are not uncommon phrases.
well, I never hear them said, but that's just my opinion.
post #42 of 133
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I know, but very few americans use the phrases 'shame, really' and 'silly and inappropriate.'

just commenting!
no. those are not uncommon phrases.
C'mon dude, "shame really" is pretty British. Haven't you ever wached the Office?

post #43 of 133
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I know, but very few americans use the phrases 'shame, really' and 'silly and inappropriate.'

just commenting!
no. those are not uncommon phrases.
C'mon dude, "shame really" is pretty British. Haven't you ever wached the Office?

LOL you guys have the Office! One of my fav shows! Ricky Gervais.. funny dude
post #44 of 133
yeah but the Office that we watch is way tamer than the Brit version apparently and the main character is Steve Carell (from Anchorman, 40 yr old virgin) and not Ricky Gervais.
post #45 of 133
i agree with meowmixcat's thoughts the most. very logical and well written. and probly the most realistic.

i am wondering if the same people who try so hard not to immediately "judge" others are capable of interpreting first impressions. cos well, if you think about it, it's based off of the same principle. a first impression is really nothing more than a toned down form of judging.
i would also venture to say that most of the people who get accused of "judging" are probly better at picking up first impressions than those who pride themselves on getting to know the person first which.. is of course the moral (?) thing to do but how many of us truly take the time and get to know people that we perceive to be far detached from our own personal style?

thank you.
post #46 of 133
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yeah but the Office that we watch is way tamer than the Brit version apparently and the main character is Steve Carell (from Anchorman, 40 yr old virgin) and not Ricky Gervais.
watch the British version of The Office on DVD. it's hilarious!
post #47 of 133
I don't judge people based on hoe they dress....I can't say I don't pay attection to peoples style....I do because I'm into fashion....I hang out with people that are into designer labels just like me....but I also have friends who could care less.
post #48 of 133
most of my friends have little to no fashion sensibilities which is why i'm able to hang out with them. if they simply had horrible fashion taste, it would just be funny, with the amount of ranting i do about these things.
post #49 of 133
my friends dress cute. although for the most part, they're not necessarily into designer shit. we go thrifting alot though!
post #50 of 133
my only friend who dresses decent is a homosexual. go figure.
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