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Zhenjie selling diesels

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Greetings and glad tidings on the festive season.
Folks it's with great pleasure to bring you some nice news over the festive season that our great friend Zhenjie from 411 has entered the Diesel jeans market on ebay:

http://tinyurl.com/5sd9a

All praise to zhenjie for being such giving type of person to bring us Diesel jeans at such low prices, goes to show the kind hearted side of zhenjie.
Amen
post #2 of 20
I welcome any more authentic sellers on eBay, but those jeans are old.
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Yes I agree with you KKS, but they're an excellent bargain.
post #4 of 20
Yeah, zhenjie is a guy with integrity, and is very honest.
post #5 of 20
lol. oh my god you guys crack me up. Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but some of those jeans (if not all) are complete fakes! haha...I think there is some collusion on these posts in order to get people to THink they are real.

Great marketing ploy, guys. Wont work cause you are a bunch of phonies.

Let me back myself up here, so you guys know I'm serious.

The x-rotuck jeans that you see there can not be authentic for sooo many reasons. For one, the old skool paper Diesel tag was completly removed from all styles except the Kratt in 2002. X-rotuck came out in January of 2003. And please, just look at them, c'mon.

Pretty soon I believe this forum will become useless unless we crack down on this nonsense
post #6 of 20
but zhenjie is selling them
he only sells authentic...dont think he would sell fakes dude
post #7 of 20
You know what...I'm going to email this link to a buddy of mine who is an actual Buyer for Diesel. I think he needs a good laugh.

Do you realize you are talking to somebody who has been working with Diesel items for over 4 years. Also, when I was 17, I used to work in a boutique that sold diesel items. I am well aware of every style that has ever been made, every color, etc. Thats why I have strong feelings about fakes. I believe people who can not spot a fake just by looking at it should not take a chance and buy online unless it is a reputable seller.

Let me tell you guys something. This seller is taking you all for fools and no one else has the balls to stand up to this clown and tell him his stuff aint real. I need support here, guys. It seems like these guys are all working together in this forum to fool us. Dont let them get away with it.
post #8 of 20
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Zathansrule, I can assure you there is no colluding etc, I dunno if your aware of who Zhenjie is, he is a very reputable brand apparel supplier, I doubt he would tarnish his good name by selling unauthentic clothing.
post #9 of 20
I welcome everybody here who believes that this clown is selling authentic jeans to please buy a pair and let us all know what's up. If I'm wrong, I will close this account and never be heard from again.

Who wants to take me up on this offer. Just buy a pair of these and take some pictures for us and let the forum decide.
post #10 of 20
Thread Starter 
Zathansrule, in case you have forgotten I have PM'd you oncee, and I never got a reply from you, and like I said there is NOTHING sinister going on here, all I've done is just post a link, I am just going by the sellers reputation, i'm not refuting the authenticity of the jeans, I totally respect your knowledge and experise on diesel jeans.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by redgredguppi
but zhenjie is selling them
he only sells authentic...dont think he would sell fakes dude
The pope could be selling those jeans and they'd still be fake. I dont know if Zhenjie is variety_lane but almost all the diesel I've seen on ebay from australia is fake, and those x-rotucks are DEFINATELY fake. ZATHANSRULE is correct about all the details, x-rotucks (and diesels in general) have not used the paper tag in the back like that for years and they have the back pocket used on the zigby which also didnt have the paper tag. Fake, fake, fake.
post #12 of 20
The buyer of these jeans complained that they were fake.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=6725077 097

You can see the complaint by viewing the ebay negatives program:
http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs...rn=Received+by
post #13 of 20
Thank you guys.

I thought I was alont here.

Anyone else agree that the existence of this post seems self--promoting?
post #14 of 20
Hi,

i dont think this post is self-promoting, what i think hes trying to say is that zhenjie is selling jeans on ebay but look at his feedback, its so good...so all those people ubying the jeans are buying fakes knowing it? or are they tricked? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK

ok they are fake but i doubt zhenjie would sell fake jeans cus on the 411 forum he is reputated to dispute fakes.

hmm...interesting
post #15 of 20
hmm
interesting the jeans coming from BANGKOK, maybe he has his own factory producing these? or maybe he is buying them from italy as surplus and shipping them to bang kok? what do you guys make of this?

but one thing to say is those jeans are DARN CHEAP, maybe they were made with sand or rocks or something, who knows...
post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZATHANSRULE
Anyone else agree that the existence of this post seems self--promoting?
As i tried to explain earlier I am NOT promoting anything, I posted this because:

A The supplier having a reputation for selling authentic apparel.
B That i can get an expert opinion on here regarding authneticity, which thankfully I did.

Now tell me where you see anything sinister going on?
Also you can PM dave about who I am, as you rudely ignore PM's.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by revs
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZATHANSRULE
Anyone else agree that the existence of this post seems self--promoting?
As i tried to explain earlier I am NOT promoting anything, I posted this because:

A The supplier having a reputation for selling authentic apparel.
B That i can get an expert opinion on here regarding authneticity, which thankfully I did.

Now tell me where you see anything sinister going on?
Also you can PM dave about who I am, as you rudely ignore PM's.

I think he is right, i dont think it is self promoting, all he was doing wa merely trying to get opinion, as someone such as zhenjie who is reputable seller on the forum selling diesel jeans at great price if they were authentic or not!! dont think he is promoting them.
post #18 of 20
i think i'm fairly good at spotting a fake diesel and these jeans looks nothing close to authenic. But ofcourse since i'm also in bangkok at the moment i'd love to give him a visit and if he is selling authentic i'd buy quite a few off him. What do u say? To be honest we see these everywhere here for 350-450 baht. i know someone supplying authentic diesel jeans in netherlands and the cost which he tells me he is able to get from diesel in italy is much higher even with large volume so i doubt anyone authentic jeans can go at this price. give me his address and i'll be there in no time. i'm planning to be selling authentic jeans in very close future.
post #19 of 20
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Originally Posted by redgredguppi
Hi,

i dont think this post is self-promoting, what i think hes trying to say is that zhenjie is selling jeans on ebay but look at his feedback, its so good...so all those people ubying the jeans are buying fakes knowing it? or are they tricked? WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK

ok they are fake but i doubt zhenjie would sell fake jeans cus on the 411 forum he is reputated to dispute fakes.

hmm...interesting
The existance of large amounts of positive feedback does not discount the possibility of an entire seller's stock being composed of fake jeans. Many people do not do the research to find out what real diesels look like; they assume that if the buttons say diesel and it has some somewhat accurate details then they're real. I think a number of people also realize they're getting fakes and don't care. Someone else started a thread in here about wanting to buy 'fake diesels at fake diesel prices.'

I've seen people with 6000 feedbacks, 98.7% positive. But those 1.3% negative tells you WAY more information than the positives. Positive feedback is the rule on ebay. I generally look at it as white noise. Its the anecdotal stuff which you need to look at. Someone who has 6000 feedbacks which say 'great jeans' and 10 which say 'fake fake fake!' probably they're selling fakes and all the other buyers either didnt realize they were buying fakes or did and didnt care about it. The people who use this forum and w411 are in the minority - most people are WAY uninformed about the industry & prevalence of fakery.

As far as his reputation & behavior on the w411: If a person is selling fakes, and knows it, he is unscrupulous. An unscrupulous person would be willing to call out the fakes (or possibly call out real products as fakes) being sold by their competitors in order to mislead the shared client base and take a larger share of the market.

If those jeans are in fact being sold by this Zhenjie person, then he is selling fakes. Diesels are not made in Thailand, and MANY MANY MANY of the fakes come from there. Those jeans lack obvious details which diesels would have and are WAY too cheap to be authentic. Diesel sells its jeans to stores like Bloomingdales for over $60/pair, so a buy-it-now price of $40 would mean the seller is taking a LOSS on each pair.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by ZATHANSRULE
lol. oh my god you guys crack me up. Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but some of those jeans (if not all) are complete fakes! haha...I think there is some collusion on these posts in order to get people to THink they are real.

Great marketing ploy, guys. Wont work cause you are a bunch of phonies.

Let me back myself up here, so you guys know I'm serious.

The x-rotuck jeans that you see there can not be authentic for sooo many reasons. For one, the old skool paper Diesel tag was completly removed from all styles except the Kratt in 2002. X-rotuck came out in January of 2003. And please, just look at them, c'mon.

Pretty soon I believe this forum will become useless unless we crack down on this nonsense
HOLY FAKENESS BATMAN!! if you guys dont see that these are fakes then hang it up and do not even post on this board anymore... the brown shhhhitty tag on the back of the rotuck is umm a DEAD ringer.. my blind grandmother could spot those are fake jeans and all she wears is a moomoo. Zathansrules preach on man.. and thank you for all of your valuable input onto this forum.
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