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Member fabioscudetto is a scam, please help me guys.

post #1 of 54
Thread Starter 
Hi guys I need your help.

Our new member fabioscudetto bought a Jogg Jeans from me, Krooley-Ne 802Q. Now he openend a case on paypal saying it's fake. Look what he wrote:
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hello,after a wash, all the colour of the jeans are turned...so i 'm going to the diesel store bruxelles to show the jeans and they have say to me that this jogg jeans krooley 802q was a fake and imitation from china (((( so i want a total refund or i open a international dispute as the diesel store has proposed to me... they have also seen on ebay yours other auction for the same jeans and they said to me that the first picture was a picture from ioffer.com famous china website where you find a lot of imitation!!!

This little prick thinks he can get away with this.

Well FABIAN CALIARO, I don't think you gonna win this. We have here alot of people who can show what I sell is real and that you're a scammer.


Here is our converstation via private message:








Phukette and all other moderators, please don't close this but let people comment if my jeans are real or not.

here are some pictures, please everyone reply. Even if you hate me or love, just give your opinion.















In sale section I have more pics, and also on my ebay: http://www.ebay.com/sch/baltimore121/m.html?item=330898147485&ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562


Please help me guys. Also some advice.


I wanted to begin a store but these little animals don't want you to do start a honest business.

He writes: "or i open a international dispute as the diesel store has proposed to me... " Hahaha.
Edited by baltimore - 3/30/13 at 10:57am
post #2 of 54
Thread Starter 
And he says I gave him some chinese pics. This is what I gave him:





Pics of my whole stock:















And this only 2/3 of my stock, as I sold 9 items already.
Edited by baltimore - 3/30/13 at 11:41am
post #3 of 54

Is it via ebay proper or just a paypal transaction?

post #4 of 54
Thread Starter 
He bought them here on denimblog, it's a paypal transaction.
post #5 of 54

I own these jeans and yours are real. End of.

 

I am especially interested in this thread as I also had a guy on ebay do the same thing. 

Either the guy has no idea what he is buying or he is a total cock.

post #6 of 54
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by leftvapor View Post

I own these jeans and yours are real. End of.

I am especially interested in this thread as I also had a guy on ebay do the same thing. 
Either the guy has no idea what he is buying or he is a total cock.

I really don't know. I answered to the Paypal claim, but before I could upload any files as prove (pictures, invoices) he closed the claim, aka he sent it to paypal to review. But there is nothing to review because I haven't uploaded any pictures and invoices of my purchases.

Will paypal contact me for these? Is my first time so I don't know what to expect.
post #7 of 54

lol the guy is an ass. those are definetely real. he just got the brilliant idea of opening a case so he could get these for free! im really surprised that such guys really exist...like...seriously??? anyway, the only case ive had on paypal was about an allsaints tshirt i had bought on ebay, where i uploaded a photo showing a hole that the seller hadnt mentioned. the seller never replied but i received a full refund. so, it was probably because i had proof that something wasnt as mentioned. all your stock looks legit to me, so in case paypal should take the money you got from that scum, itll be extremely unfortunate. maybe you should try sending paypal an email telling them the exact story. :/ 

post #8 of 54

When opening Paypal dispute, it gives you 20 days in order to enable you to negotiate. if he does not agree, he translated the dispute to a claim. This rule Paypal. And I am sure that you are selling the original jeans. You will need to prepare evidence (this may be a label with jeans, photos, and postal track)

post #9 of 54

Well I can personally vouch for you Baltimore. You are a well respected member of the community. But we can't influence PayPal one way or another. They will make their own decision and I'm sorry to say that they typically side with the buyer. As far as I'm concerned you will not lose any face here. You have the support of me and the community. 

post #10 of 54
Thread Starter 
@ audit30. Yes, it'll be really unfortunate. I really don't understand, he wanted the jeans and when he received them he really liked them and even contacted me to buy ANOTHER one. What the heck.

@ Aramis, I replied to his message (see my 1st post) saying that I can prove that I sell real stuff, I can show pictures and invoices of my purchases (I even paid some of the jeanswith paypal!!!). But after my message I saw a Upload button for files, before I could take any pictures and get some evidence the claim got closed and sent to paypal. Do you know if paypal gonna ask me for more information. Now they got his word and my word, but no other evidence.

@ Phukette. Thank you very much. But I thought I could link to this thread. I have no friends here and I don't know one in real life. I have sold many stuff here on denimblog, so I thought everyone could give their opinion on this matter and I can send it to paypal.

@ Leftvapor, you also made once a thread about this same thing, did you send the topic to ebay and did they looked at it? Who won?
post #11 of 54

Well fabio, please learn to use your washing machine, im sure baltimore is a decent seller.

post #12 of 54
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Originally Posted by baltimore View Post



@ Aramis, I replied to his message (see my 1st post) saying that I can prove that I sell real stuff, I can show pictures and invoices of my purchases (I even paid some of the jeanswith paypal!!!). But after my message I saw a Upload button for files, before I could take any pictures and get some evidence the claim got closed and sent to paypal. Do you know if paypal gonna ask me for more information. Now they got his word and my word, but no other evidence.

yes, they can contact you for more information. even if they decide not to your advantage, you can call and appeal the decision PP.

post #13 of 54
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Originally Posted by Aramis View Post

yes, they can contact you for more information. even if they decide not to your advantage, you can call and appeal the decision PP.

Oh if they let me to prove it, I have plenty of evidence!!!

@Edouard, Hahah yes shit is really funny.
post #14 of 54
Bought 2 Diesel jeans from Baltimore, and those were real. I trust him.
post #15 of 54

Baltimore - your Diesels looks super authentic!!!

post #16 of 54
@ Baltimore,

Hate to see this happen to you. Good luck with the case, hopefully PP will make the right decision.
post #17 of 54
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys, I have calmed down a bit. I'm now little more sure paypal will ask for more evidence on both sides, and I got plenty of them and he doesn't have anything on me. It's going to be alright.

Ofcourse, people who bought from me in the past, or see from the pics that I sell authentic stuff, please leave a comment here. Maybe this thread will also be a help for the case.
post #18 of 54
your a trusted seller baltimore
and all your pics on ebay are real pics not fake
your 100% authentic
your legit and he is an ass for trying to pull something like that off
post #19 of 54

to be honest.....there will be always people like this "huso" on the internet.....as long as paypal gives people like him the chance and the foundation to claim this jean he will do this.

 

also his comment with his visit from the diesel store....well nice that they told him that his jean is a fake....does he have any written comment from the diesel store? or a written statement that this jean is fake? i guess he does not have any proof form the diesel store that its a fake.....to be honst why should this jean be a fake.....

 

 

 

anyway the best solution is...i guess it s abit hard but you know check his adress....get a flight to his country with some friends and visit him.

i know its a bitt hard lined but nowadays thats the only solution in some terms......every jerk feels that he has the chance to scam a person who is honest who is workin for his money and is tryin to achieve something. 

 

where are the gi joes in this dark hour? (sorry i had to write it =D )

post #20 of 54
Thread Starter 
@mattias, appreciate the comment man!

@118i, hahaha well he lives 200km from here, so you never know icon_razz.gif And you're right, he doesn't have any proof, I have plenty. Was kinda freaked out last night (because of the ebay stories I have read), but the chance that he will win this is very small. So all good.

And he's been online couple of times, I don't think he thought I would kick his internet ass like this... even if he wins I will kick his ass when he's sleeping... Belgium is not for from here. Hehe.


I really can't stand people who think they're smart if they play it like this, and I'm a dumb ass and will let this happen. Whenever I sold something here or on ebay, I always reply within an hour, I give them pictures, I ship within hours from payment, because I know they want their jeans really bad. Did the same thing for him, he even wanted to buy another one look http://www.denimblog.com/c/t/197112/diesel-tepphar-ne-800e-jogg-jeans-sz-28-30-bnwt

I told him tepphar is much tighter than krooley, and gave him fitpics myself, he didn't even ask for them. Because of the pics i gave, he found out that the cut isn't for him and I said no problem.
If I was a scumbag, I wouldn't help him and he would have bought jeans which he didn't like (the fit). Well fck it.
post #21 of 54

even if paypal agrees with him you can sew him till his ass bleeds! every lawyers mouth would get wet when he will recieve a case like this.

post #22 of 54
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post #23 of 54

In my case, the guy never opened a disputeon paypal. He didnt even contact me until I asked him to leave feedback, then he said 'Was I joking' and that he ahd gone to the Diesel store in Norway and was awaiting a letter to say that they were imitations. It was laughable. in the end, I seemed to have convinced him that they were the real deal (as they were) and I even ended up selling him a pair of Tepphar when I got them in his size.

 

Some people just like to try it on. At the end of the day, once he has his jeans, he has nothing to lose by opening a case. Because at worst, he just ends up getting what he paid for. It a crap attitude to have but some people are assholes as you probably know.

 

Its true what @Aramis said, paypal give you 20 days to communicate before he is allowed to escalate it, Not sure if they will contact you or not to be honest bud.

post #24 of 54

to be honest i wouldnt use the 20 days offer from paypal....i would contact my lawyer. set up a writing to his adress regarding his claims that this jean is fake etc. believe me this guy doesnt have a chance and i bet my z435i that every scammer which recieves such a letter will shit immediatly in his pants.

thats how we do it in austria...i guess ha ha

post #25 of 54

Stick to what leftvapor said. Get in contact with PayPal and state your case. Getting a lawyer involved will end up costing you and I doubt you have a BMW to bet on it, and all you'll have left is pride and an empty wallet. Plead your case as you have a very good one. If you need references for PayPal, I can provide you with one. 

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