Received Viker 803W and Viker-R-Box 801N today.
The 803W is sooooo tight, I am not able to close the buttons! Definately have to size up.... I don't think they will stretch much because of the thick, rigid denim and even if they will, it won't be much enough that a size 29 will be comfortable. I will return and try a 30.
The only thing I am afraid of is that the legs below the knee will also be roomier in a larger size...
Anyway, very nice wash!!
The 801N are great though. Also stiff denim but not as much as the 803W and the waist / seat area is much more comfortable in my size 29.
I must say I am very surprised because I feared that the Viker will look too loose on me because I usually wear Safado but they are not. The legs are very slim for Vikers.
Great fit, I think I will keep them.
Will post some pictures soon.