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needs opinion: diesel zaf 796

post #1 of 45
Thread Starter 
This thread is not about the seller. I believe that italiandepot is one of the reputable seller and sells authentic jeans. please comment about the jeans. I never had diesel so I am bit confused which one that good for my collection, I consider other like zathan, cardiel and yokees. But look at these jeans, i like them and the wash also not bad. Give me your comment if these compare to zathan 772, cardiel 710 and yokees (hmm forgot the wash number)

link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW
post #2 of 45

they're awsome

I've posted a bunch of pix in here of the ZAF 796s I own, if you root around in here you'll find it. They're AMAZING! My new favorites...
post #3 of 45

Re: they're awsome

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Originally Posted by blm14
I've posted a bunch of pix in here of the ZAF 796s I own, if you root around in here you'll find it. They're AMAZING! My new favorites...
How do the Zaf 796s fit as compared to the Zathan 772s?
I love the fit of the Zathans.
TIA.
post #4 of 45
Thread Starter 

Re: they're awsome

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How do the Zaf 796s fit as compared to the Zathan 772s?
I love the fit of the Zathans.
TIA.
so what kind of the cut of zaf then? I like zathan too, I have pd&c that similar cut with zathan and it is so nice....hmm...still confused
post #5 of 45
i talked to blm14 about the ZAFS and I asked the same question. "how do they fit with the zathans." He told me they are not as tight in the thigh and a little looser. I am sure he could tell you a complete description though.
post #6 of 45
I own a pair of Zaf's and Zathan 772's and the Zathans are definetely looser in the thigh. The Zaf's also seem to run just a tad bit longer. The wash is amazing and the back pockets are very intricate. The Zaf's are definetely the ones I wear all the time now.

BTW: I have some zaf pictures here: ftp://www.myweb.uiowa.edu/Diesel/Diesel.htm
post #7 of 45
oh so the Zafs are tighter in the leg?
post #8 of 45
Thread Starter 
oke, i think i'll buy zaf first....I like the pocket...does it still look good with boots?
post #9 of 45
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Originally Posted by bottledregrets
oh so the Zafs are tighter in the leg?
In my experience the zathans are MUCH tighter in the leg. Because of this I have to buy zathans in a size too large (3 whereas I can get ZAFs in my actual waist size (36).
post #10 of 45
Hi, the Zaf's are much tighter cut between the waist and the knee. From the knee down the Zaf's are very flare. The Zaf's flare is about 2'' more than the Zathans flare. The pockets are amazing, and are definatly the most detailed part of the jean. These jeans go well with boots and with steel toe shoes. I just want to say again the the Zaf's are very wide at the bottom and do not look good with regular shoes.
post #11 of 45
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Originally Posted by emetrowear
Hi, the Zaf's are much tighter cut between the waist and the knee. From the knee down the Zaf's are very flare. The Zaf's flare is about 2'' more than the Zathans flare. The pockets are amazing, and are definatly the most detailed part of the jean. These jeans go well with boots and with steel toe shoes. I just want to say again the the Zaf's are very wide at the bottom and do not look good with regular shoes.
I will have to compare the waist-to-knee measurements of my ZAFs versus my zathans when I get home but I'm sure that the zathans are tighter in that area than the ZAFs. I agree that the ZAFs flare out BELOW the knee more than the zathans. It may also depend a lot on the waist size generally. For instance, just by virtue of the needs of the body shape, the ratio between waist size and leg width is going to vary from a 28" waist zathan to a 36" waist zathan. What I can tell you from my own experience is this:

Trying on zathans in waist size 36, I can tell that the waist would fit if I could actually get the jeans to go over my thighs. BUT! The thigh is so tight that I cant get the jeans to get past about 2/3s of the way up my femur bone. Whereas a waist size 38, while about 2 inches too loose in the waist, fits my legs perfectly.

ZAFs on the other hand fit my leg and waist perfectly in a size 36x34, which is what drew me to conclude that the ZAF is looser in the waist-to-knee area. What's interesting is that this may NOT be the case if one were to compare a 32" waist zathan to a 32" waist ZAF. Try it yourself, I can only tell you what I've experienced.
post #12 of 45
I agree with you that the fit of the jean is dependent on what your measurments are.
post #13 of 45
Thread Starter 
Just bought one from italiandepot, I'll let u know about the fit after thery are arrived....anyway thanks alot
post #14 of 45
Def. a must have pair. Buy them now before 2005 comes around and they'll be scarce like crazy. I would watch for tons of fakes to come out in the next few months
post #15 of 45
Thread Starter 
hey zathansrule,

what do u reckon about the zaf 796 from italiandepot? Do u think it's second quality as well as u said in other thread (diesel 82h)?
post #16 of 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by seskoad
hey zathansrule,

what do u reckon about the zaf 796 from italiandepot? Do u think it's second quality as well as u said in other thread (diesel 82h)?
I dont know about this whole second-quality thing. I got a pair of diesels from italiandepot which were PERFECT. Looked identical to the ones I got from a diesel store. Maybe he is buying ones which are defective or off-wash etc but I don't think that this composes the majority of his sales.
post #17 of 45
I would bet any amount of money that when compared to the actual jeans from the Diesel store or authorized retailer, you will be able to see some differences. You have to understand that the process of inspecting the jeans is so arduos that even when the naked eye can not see any defects, the person inspecting them might find up to 10 separate defects. There are many people that would like to believe that Italiandepot's jeans are as perfect as they come, but in my opinion, there is a degree of wishful thinking involved there. In fact, they want to feel better about saving 30 or 40 bucks on a pair of jeans and that's why they get so defensive. I would recommend strongly that you look into Bloomingdales when they have private sales. I bought mine with a 20% off promotion and two seperate 25 dollar coupons and got a REAL pair of Zafs for just over $100 (with tax). If you are smart shoppers, ebay will go out of business and all these gray item sellers would have to find real jobs
post #18 of 45

zaf 796 from italiandepot

Hi guys, I just joined this forum and would like to sahre my presonal knowledge about diesel zaf 796.
I just bought diesel zaf 796 from italiandepot and I believe the jeans are authentic. But I am worried by the "grey" diesel jeans mentioned in this forum. Here is my observation:

If I compare my zaf 796 with my x-rotuck (I bought it from the diesel store), it seems that the zaf lacks of the stripeness pattern that exist at the lower front of the jeans and the back side of the 796 jeans. You will notice from the picture posted by italiandepot on their ebay auction. But, the weird thing is that I also noticed this lack of stripeness on the zaf 796 on the picture shown in the urban outfitter.com, universalgear.com and kleptomaniac.com. So I am not really sure whethet the lack of stripeness is responsible for the cheaper price offered by italiandepot or not. WOuld you guys comment on this?
I believe zathansrule bought the zaf 796 from bloomingdale, how significant the stripeness pattern on your jeans. could you post the picture of the jeans (both front and back)?
Also, take alook zaf 772 sold by italiandepot, once again, the pattern is not as obvious as those I found on my zathan 772.

The other thing is that the size of zaf jeans tend to run one size bigger. I wear size 34x30 for both x-rotuck and zathan. But I have to go down to 33x30 with zaf. This is kind of weird because the size should uniform for all diesel jeans. This again worried me if the zaf from italiandepot is part of the grey diesel jeans.
post #19 of 45
I would post it, but dont really know how and plus all I have is my Sprint camera phone in the way of digital cameras (i never really take pictures, so I never really invested in a digital camera) . I will tell you this though and this might answer your question to some extent. The 796 wash of 2002 whent he x-rotucks came out and the 796 wash of today are a little bit different. I think today's are more yellowish but tend to lose color quicker. I would ask you this: Are you not satisfied with the ones you bought? If they look good and are authentic, then what difference does it make?
post #20 of 45
I think the zaf jeans are great, but frankly I am abit dissappointed with the lack of stripeness on my jeans. I like to post a picture of my jeans, but currently I have no digital camera.

I like the 796 wash mainly due to the stripe pattern. That's why I am curious if the lack of stripeness is one of the defects of my zaf jeans. As you mentioned in the previous thread that there will be some difference between the jeans originated from italiandeport and diesel store.

Since you bought your zaf from an authorized dealer, which sells non-defect zaf jeans, we can compare the jeans and possibly figure out if the lack of stripeness is a common feature of the new 796 zaf diesel jeans.

I hope I explain my reason well.

Also, I notice that my x-rotuck which is bought in early 2004 at diesel store has the same color of my zaf jeans. The color is more greenish and has yellowish fade. But my x-rotuck has more obvious stripe pattern (just like the older 796 wash) both on the lower front and the back of the jeans. With this fact I conclude that the obviousness of the stripe pattern with 796 wash should stay relatively the same.

It is interesting to notice that the color of 796 changes with the time when the jeans are made. Please correct me if I am wrong, the earlier x-rotuck 796 (2002-2003) is more bluiesh and has white fade. Which one is the better wash?
post #21 of 45
Also,
do you guys notice that the size of 796 zaf tends to run one size bigger compared to zathan or x-rotuck. Or it's just my jeans in particular. Thanks.
post #22 of 45
All hail ItalianDepot...lol. Nobody wants to listen to me. They go out and buy authentic but not first quality jeans and then complain. Cant say I didnt warn you. You would think that ItalianDepot and DieselofCrapami are like gods of denim if u were to listen to the people in this forum.

You know what, the jeans are not really supposed to be a size larger than xrotuck or zathan. In fact I wear the same size in all three but as I saw when I had the "pleasure" to purchase jeans from your friend ItalianDepot, sizes on gray goods will vary from first quality goods.

A lesson to all those who worship DieselofCrapami and ItalianShmepot
post #23 of 45
zathansrule,
how about the stripe pattern of your zaf 796 jeans? Is it very obvious just like that on x-rotuck 796 jeans? I am curious to know. Have they sold the zaf in the diesel stores?
post #24 of 45
Yeah they did and do sell the Zaf's in Diesel stores as I bought mine there. Pics as posted in the other thread are here: http://www.myweb.uiowa.edu/kswinton/Diesel/diesel.htm
post #25 of 45
Thread Starter 
hey budilart,

I bought zaf 796 from italiandepot and there are stripes on the pants. So I don't what's wrong with yours....I'll give you the pics in 2 days....

I am also worried about the grey product. But my conclusion is if those sellers (italiandepot and dieselofmiami) did not describe about defects so then it will be alrite. I am not expert but look how many the non-defects jeans that sold by those 2 sellers and other authentic sellers in ebay, if they are all grey products, isn't it a loss for company? and furthermore, the diesel company's quality control should be in question. that's my opinion
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