No turbodenim is 8Y9 ... The fit of the Jodar is roomy thighs and waist and then a taper. It is for guys with bigger legs that want to be able to wear tapered jeans. You can get them in a longer inseam but it looks like asos only has 30 or 32 in stock. The rise is high. It has whats considered a "drop crotch". It basically just gives you more room. The high rise actually makes the inseam longer than what it actually measures. For example, if you have a pair of jeans with an 8 inch rise and 32" inseam, it will be the same length as a pair of jeans with an 8.5" rise and 31.5" inseam. So if the jodars rise measures, lets say 10" and the inseam is 32", then you would have the same length as a pair of jeans with a 9" rise and a 33" inseam. Im not sure the actual length of the rise on the jodar but i do know its higher than normal. I also dont know if the 32" inseam is a true 32" inseam. Im pretty sure that the japanese diesel website has measurements with the listings. Use google translater.