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R&R v. Diesel?

post #1 of 13
4/26/10 at 10:13pm
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I am a Diesel fanatic. I have been buying their jeans for years and know what to expect with the quality of their denim. How does R&R compare to Diesel?
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post #2 of 13
4/26/10 at 11:48pm
In many different ways the comparisons will boil down to a matter of taste or preference. I personally like R&R washes and pockets a lot more than Diesel pockets or washes. The fit for my body type is also better with R&R jeans.

However, Diesel jeans are known to be much better when it comes to material quality, construction, consistency and longevity. There are many stories of R&R jeans ripping for various reasons. I've personally had two pairs wear down relatively quickly and require patching to prevent ripping. One of the pairs was an older wash that is known to have rip issues because the denim is thin and the wash is pretty intensive. The other pair however was a newer pair (and a very expensive one at that). People have also had studs, buttons and crystals fall off though I've never had a problem with studs or buttons.

Despite that, I still love them. The potential quality issues are an acceptable price for me. R&R is usually pretty good about helping you out if you bought the jeans at retail as well. eBay or discount store purchases don't count though. Your best bet is to find a store that stocks a wide variety of cuts and washes and try stuff on to see how you like it. Unfortunately this isn't the greatest moment in the R&R timeline and a lot of their recent washes can't really compare to the stuff they used to put out.
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post #3 of 13
4/28/10 at 3:40pm
I think there is a huge variation in bootcuts between diesel and R&R, diesels bootcuts are fairly slim esp. zathan/zanity compared to a R&R floyd which thighs are huuuuge

Also I talked to an owner of a boutique and he said that rock and republic fit models are some of the tallest around 6'3-6'4 I'm 5'11 so I have to chop off at least 4 inches off of any pair I buy so this affects the fit in a bootcut
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post #4 of 13
4/29/10 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by braindead5400 View Post
In many different ways the comparisons will boil down to a matter of taste or preference. I personally like R&R washes and pockets a lot more than Diesel pockets or washes. The fit for my body type is also better with R&R jeans.

However, Diesel jeans are known to be much better when it comes to material quality, construction, consistency and longevity. There are many stories of R&R jeans ripping for various reasons. I've personally had two pairs wear down relatively quickly and require patching to prevent ripping. One of the pairs was an older wash that is known to have rip issues because the denim is thin and the wash is pretty intensive. The other pair however was a newer pair (and a very expensive one at that). People have also had studs, buttons and crystals fall off though I've never had a problem with studs or buttons.

Despite that, I still love them. The potential quality issues are an acceptable price for me. R&R is usually pretty good about helping you out if you bought the jeans at retail as well. eBay or discount store purchases don't count though. Your best bet is to find a store that stocks a wide variety of cuts and washes and try stuff on to see how you like it. Unfortunately this isn't the greatest moment in the R&R timeline and a lot of their recent washes can't really compare to the stuff they used to put out.
. This makes me very very nervous. I just purchased a pair from bloomingdales at 45% off bc bloomys was having a major sAle. After reading this I am considring returning them. Also as the poster below you says the cuts are long! I Am 6ft and the jeans are dragging. I have never had this issue with diesel or buffalo
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post #5 of 13
4/29/10 at 11:00am
As far as bootcuts are concerned, Floyd is a more relaxed bootcut. It has roomier hips and a larger leg opening. There are other R&R bootcuts that are slimmer such as Henley and Taylor.

As far as inseam length goes yes, they're long. The entire point is that you get them hemmed properly so they look the best on you. There's no point in wearing and spending money on high end denim if you don't want to hem them properly. Length is just as essential to a good fit as any other measurement and jeans always look best when they're the proper length. I don't see that as an "issue" because you should be hemming your jeans anyway.

What pair did you buy? What makes you so nervous, the potential quality issues? If it's the quality issues then it really does vary by wash. There are washes that are known to be more rip prone than others. I've only had two pairs wear down on me to the point where they may have ripped but I've owned over 60 pairs of R&R since I started buying them so it really isn't a huge issue.
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post #6 of 13
4/29/10 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by braindead5400 View Post
As far as bootcuts are concerned, Floyd is a more relaxed bootcut. It has roomier hips and a larger leg opening. There are other R&R bootcuts that are slimmer such as Henley and Taylor.

As far as inseam length goes yes, they're long. The entire point is that you get them hemmed properly so they look the best on you. There's no point in wearing and spending money on high end denim if you don't want to hem them properly. Length is just as essential to a good fit as any other measurement and jeans always look best when they're the proper length. I don't see that as an "issue" because you should be hemming your jeans anyway.

What pair did you buy? What makes you so nervous, the potential quality issues? If it's the quality issues then it really does vary by wash. There are washes that are known to be more rip prone than others. I've only had two pairs wear down on me to the point where they may have ripped but I've owned over 60 pairs of R&R since I started buying them so it really isn't a huge issue.
I bought Vaughn Accusation Blue. I wasn't concerned about quality until I read your post. But one thing that is weird is the wash is dye my hands and some clothing articles blue. Any ideas? Should I return them to bloomingdales?
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post #7 of 13
4/29/10 at 1:55pm
Accusation is a very dark wash so dye coming off onto clothes is normal. It won't do it forever and will usually stop after a wash or two.
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post #8 of 13
4/29/10 at 4:35pm
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Accusation is a very dark wash so dye coming off onto clothes is normal. It won't do it forever and will usually stop after a wash or two.
How do you suggest washing them? Also have you found that the dye comes off on the clothing it has tarnished in the wash?
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post #9 of 13
4/29/10 at 6:44pm
I can't really comment on washing them with other clothes because when I do wash my jeans they all get washed by hand in cold water.
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post #10 of 13
4/30/10 at 5:59pm
Throw them in the sink with some vinegar (or add it to a load of laundry) and it'll help set the dye.
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post #11 of 13
4/30/10 at 8:08pm
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I can't really comment on washing them with other clothes because when I do wash my jeans they all get washed by hand in cold water.
I have a pretty good washing machine, so do you think just turning them inside out and washing them alone will be efficient?
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post #12 of 13
4/30/10 at 8:39pm
I've read about not using machines with agitators (basically top load machines) but I'm sure there are plenty of people who use them instead of the front loaders. Just follow Maureen's advice and use vinegar either in the washer or in a sink.
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post #13 of 13
5/1/10 at 8:27am
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I've read about not using machines with agitators (basically top load machines) but I'm sure there are plenty of people who use them instead of the front loaders. Just follow Maureen's advice and use vinegar either in the washer or in a sink.
Vinegar might be risky...it can leave a really nasty smell to the jeans. I have a front loader though, and it HE. So do you suggest not using any soap? These jeans could have been a waste of over $100. I have never had so much trouble w/a pair of Diesel jeans.

this article sounds pretty good

How to Wash Jeans | eHow.com

Also if I do wash them should I wash them alone? Will the dye wear off on other jeans if I wash them?
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