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Originally Posted by jetsetter 
yea, im probly gonna go with a 30 in these. my usual size is 29, but they can also take awhile to break in. and i am more into the slim Zathan look as opposed to the butt-hugging tight look. thanks for the advice so far!
edit: are these on sale in stores?
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Yeah, It would be your best bet.. As before I even tried them at the diesel store here in tampa, the sales rep there gave me a size up from my normal size, and said this wash egenerally runs a size small, and he was right.
But to answer your question, the zatiny and viker 8YM was retail and not on sale, they didnt have safado 8YM in stock there so not sure on those.