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post #1 of 54
Thread Starter 
Ok here's what I think we should focus on;

1. new server. speed everything up.

2. new forum manager to help organize everything and keep the community well run


Denimblog improvments
+ add in email subscription in the top right
+ take out the footer
+ make "next" button at bottom have a few less buttons on it

HonestMall
+ get a vbulletin programmer to help speed things up and make sure mall is working correctly
+ move the New item button up to the top right.
+ add a better "next" button at bottom
+ Do you guys want more items per page? Or will that take too long to load the pages

Forum improvements
+ add a tagging system so posts can be better organized
+ maybe reduce the number of sections



ok what are your thoughts, what would you also like to see improved?
post #2 of 54
twitter?
post #3 of 54
Thread Starter 
Hmmm. Good call.

We recently installed twitter in our web design community.
Mintpages - Twitter Feeds

The twitter API is weird though and only allows like 8 usernames to be pulled.
We could try to find the top 8 HF twitters.
We could add twitter to your profile pages possibly.

Do we have an official 'what is your twitter ID' thread yet

(denimblog's is at www.twitter.com/denimblog)
post #4 of 54
More items per page and a smaller line to fit them in would be great

Have only

Chat
Health and Lifestyle
Enter At Your Own Risk
Entry to Mid level Fashion
High end brands and Unknown brands
Online Selling and Protection ( all paypal,google checkout, ebay help)
Handbags and Shoes
Wanted
Followed of course by the mall

Entry to mid level would contain all of the current sections, but they would have to be accessed through the "entry to mid level" topic. That would really clean up the front page and make us not look so out of touch.
Seven, R&R and TR have been fading pretty fast over the years, and taking them off the front page would make us look less dated.

While still having them here would keep the people who are fanatics of said brands, and newbies just starting into designer denim happy

Like I said before, allow the members to control what gets talked about, and relax on the bannings and infractions. Let people talk, drama is interesting, and if we make everyone stop talking about inflamatory subjects its gets dull really fast.

The anti racial and anti homophobic rules would still apply. I think saying someone is being bitchy for example is fine, but a personal attack would still be against the rules.
post #5 of 54
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Originally Posted by CUTUP View Post
More items per page and a smaller line to fit them in would be great

Have only

Chat
Health and Lifestyle
Enter At Your Own Risk
Entry to Mid level Fashion
High end brands and Unknown brands
Online Selling and Protection ( all paypal,google checkout, ebay help)
Handbags and Shoes
Wanted
Followed of course by the mall

Entry to mid level would contain all of the current sections, but they would have to be accessed through the "entry to mid level" topic. That would really clean up the front page and make us not look so out of touch.
Seven, R&R and TR have been fading pretty fast over the years, and taking them off the front page would make us look less dated.

While still having them here would keep the people who are fanatics of said brands, and newbies just starting into designer denim happy

Like I said before, allow the members to control what gets talked about, and relax on the bannings and infractions. Let people talk, drama is interesting, and if we make everyone stop talking about inflamatory subjects its gets dull really fast.

The anti racial and anti homophobic rules would still apply. I think saying someone is being bitchy for example is fine, but a personal attack would still be against the rules.

^^ Some good ideas in here. Expecially the proposed thread organization.

~Dave
post #6 of 54
I think #2 should be above #1... getting this place organized and getting viewership back up should be priority #1

shouldn't be any speed issues right now anyway...

*back to lurking*
post #7 of 54
make colby rasmus the new manager
post #8 of 54
Been a while since I've visited here and I have to say dave, I'm not inclined to believe that you're going to listen to the information you solicit here. MANY times in the past you've asked for advice and then ignored it, doing whatever the hell you want, often moving in the exact opposite direction of the majority of suggestions, and always to the detriment of this forum.

You have two major problems, craige:

1) The market has shifted. By and large people know how to identify fakes, and the majority of people who are interested in the type of fashion this website USED TO BE about have moved on. It's not like there's hundreds of thousands of jeans freaks that you have yet to uncover that will join and contribute. This comes back to, I hate to say it (having raised the issue like 6 million times already), the forum's mission statement. The REAL mission statement (I suspect) was "To make me some money so I don't have to hold a 9-5 job" but you've experimented with LOTS of ideas in the past: A place to find wholesale authentic jeans, a place to help people identify real jeans and educate them, etc. Now you have nothing. It's not really clear what the ACTUAL PURPOSE of this forum is anymore, which is why nobody comes.

2) You don't delegate. If you want to rule the place with an iron fist, that's your choice but I think it's pretty obvious that it doesn't lead to a successful forum (let alone a profitable one for you personally). But from a practical perspective, you cannot drop off the face of the planet and go live in a hut in some third-world country and expect unpaid volunteers who don't agree with your philosophy to continue to adhere to it let alone enforce it with the vigor that you would.

Solutions? I will address item 2 first because the solution is easier:

2) Stop managing the content of the forum. You just have to let this go. I know that you don't like when people disagree with you or with one another, but you know what? That's life. People are not monolithic in their viewpoints and attempting to chorale all discussion even remotely adversarial into "drama" does not change anything. Nor does attempting to force your own beliefs onto others. Maybe it works in church, but not on the internet. Hire someone to be the forum content manager (or leader or deacon or whatever the fuck you want to call it) and step back. Just worry about your ads, and your forum functionality, and your servers and bandwidth and let someone else handle policy. You're doomed to a ghost-town otherwise. I'm unconvinced that it's not too late already.

1) This is a tough one. I've thought about this in the past and have only come up with half-formed ideas. Given my previous attempts to make you understand the importance of this task (you finding a disclaimer that the website belongs to the admin and all content belongs to him) has been AT BEST an abject failure. But if you want to succeed you have to re-engineer the purpose of this place, stick to it, and measure it to make sure that you can make corrections if needed. These ideas of changing around the forum topics are approaching that, but those are the trees. I'm telling you that you need to arrange this by looking at the forest.

The fact that your first priority is buying new hardware to host the site doesn't exactly give me high hopes. Most of the development work you've done even has been to the detriment of the users. Remember the old mall? How quickly have sales dropped off? Remember when you were on PHPBB and you spent a ton of money to make another platform look JUST LIKE PHPBB? Did that solve anything? Did it increase your user base? Did it help functionality?

What is the most successful combination forum/market on the internet? Craigslist. And do they have a fancy website with a javascript mall and all kinds of bells and whistles? NO! They have plain-text, no CSS, incredibly bare-bones implementation. But their system is FAST, uncensored, well-organized, unmoderated, and WILDLY successful.

I'm not sure that any amount of cajoling on my part will be able to open your mind to the problems of this place because having known you for 5 years, my feeling is that they are reflective of your own personal shortcomings.

Maybe I'll close by quoting the late great michael jackson: "If you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and make that change."
post #9 of 54
I'll say one more thing and then shut up:

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post #10 of 54
I would like to see the banner ads on the right side of the page shrunken. It cheapens the forum by making advertising more prominent than the content.
post #11 of 54
Keep the diesel section, it's the only reason I stop by, and the archived information in there is the most valuable part of the forum as it's the most extensive I've been able to find online.
post #12 of 54
what blm14 said...
post #13 of 54
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Originally Posted by blm14 View Post
I'll say one more thing and then shut up:

virgogoddess: last post Apr 09
lizlikeshugs: last post nov 08
courtzzzz69: last post Apr 09
bergdorfbrunette: last post apr 09
u r awesome! i didn wanna quote the long one... but NICE QUOTE to use for your "argument"/ suggestions
post #14 of 54
maybee since nobody here posts new threads anymore. dave. you should start making them... sighs i really miss the chat section way back when,,, i first joined... umm... THREE YEARS AGO =[
post #15 of 54
I haven't been here in a while and happened to stop by today...

Anyway, I don't really know how to make it better, but I will say why I don't come back more often:
1. People here are clique-y and if you are new, you are are S.O.L
2. The whole negative posting thing is kind of mean, imo
3. No one discusses any fashion I'm actually into here and it seems some people try to act more elite than the next person, which is irritating
post #16 of 54
^ If you think this place is unwelcoming, try jawnz. The ultimate bitchpit. A sad mix of past and present hf members tearing new assholes for anyone and everyone. I'm yet to find a thread on that site that is enlightening or non threatening.
post #17 of 54
They are not so bad.
post #18 of 54
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Originally Posted by gizmokat View Post
I think #2 should be above #1... getting this place organized and getting viewership back up should be priority #1

shouldn't be any speed issues right now anyway...

*back to lurking*
I quite agree. Stopping the ship from sinking is more important than rearranging the deckchairs.
post #19 of 54
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Originally Posted by kimmy View Post
^ If you think this place is unwelcoming, try jawnz. The ultimate bitchpit. A sad mix of past and present hf members tearing new assholes for anyone and everyone. I'm yet to find a thread on that site that is enlightening or non threatening.
ha this is my first post here in months. i have to correct you though; jawnz has many helpful members who will almost always give you an honest opinion, critique or suggestion. we're still a small community, but many of us know a lot about widely-varying topics. we're interested in many types of real style (7FAM bootcuts and sequined shirts are not real style) from classic preppy looks to hard-to-pull-off gothninja getups, and thrift store finds to $2k leather jackets.

pee is easily one of our most helpful and beneficial members at the moment, though he was banned from here for providing honest style critiques. we're trying to minimize pointless conversations and create more useful and unique content, and opinions like this are unfounded.

i would want to befriend almost every jawnz member in real life- come hang out!
post #20 of 54
You mean he wasn't banned for posting wang shots in waywt?
post #21 of 54
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Originally Posted by sinclairaw View Post
ha this is my first post here in months. i have to correct you though; jawnz has many helpful members who will almost always give you an honest opinion, critique or suggestion. we're still a small community, but many of us know a lot about widely-varying topics. we're interested in many types of real style (7FAM bootcuts and sequined shirts are not real style) from classic preppy looks to hard-to-pull-off gothninja getups, and thrift store finds to $2k leather jackets.

pee is easily one of our most helpful and beneficial members at the moment, though he was banned from here for providing honest style critiques. we're trying to minimize pointless conversations and create more useful and unique content, and opinions like this are unfounded.

i would want to befriend almost every jawnz member in real life- come hang out!
QFT!

And to add to this. There's more action and topics that happen on Jawnz in a DAY then there is in a week here on HF.
post #22 of 54
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Originally Posted by Cez1029 View Post
You mean he wasn't banned for posting wang shots in waywt?

I find it hard to believe that Pee's ass is the reason for HF's downfall...
post #23 of 54
never said it was
post #24 of 54
pee would be banned in a second on jawnz if mihalis didnt think it would just make it worse lol
post #25 of 54
no

fucking

chance,ok
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