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WATCH OUT THIS GERMANY LIAR !!At honest mall

post #1 of 30
6/30/09 at 10:40pm
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I met this guy at honestmall at 6/12.
He was selling a pair of timmen 71j.
I contacted him.
Then I pay $199 to him for the jeans.
Today,I receive a letter from Germany!
Inside the envelopment, there is a piece of blank paper!!!!

His honestforum id is benjerry
His real name is Mirco Engelhardt


You are such a shame of Germany!!!!!!
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post #2 of 30
7/1/09 at 12:12am
Did you pay through paypal? If so, File a dispute.
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post #3 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:33am
really it happened?
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post #4 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:43am
I feel bad ror you, had the same thing happen to me, back in febuary i bought a pair of thanaz 72L from honestforum member diesel addict and never recieved them, won,t contact me back after many tries.
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post #5 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:59am
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Yes !!! It happened!!
I completed the payment at 6/12.
At the same day, he said he had sent out the package.
Then I asked him to provide me the sending number of the package.
I asked several times.
But he never replied.
Till 6/18 , I opened the paypal dispute.
He started to reply me.
Then he gave me a sending number.
He tried to pretend that he had really sent me the package.

Today,I got his letter from Germany.
As you can see.
Inside the envelopment, there is a piece of blank paper.
And the sending number of this letter is the same as he provided before.

This guy is really mean!!!

Watch out !! He is still selling jeans at honestmall!!
And the pics of his item are not from him.
He stole those pics from someone else but not himself.



I've filed the dispute into the compensation in paypal.
Not sure if I can get back my money.
I wish I can.
If I could not get back my money from paypal.
I will keep chasing my money by my credit card company.
Mirco Engelhardt!!
You can't cheat my money!!!
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post #6 of 30
7/1/09 at 4:00am
Disappearing ink?
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post #7 of 30
7/1/09 at 4:05am
so, good luck for your dispute betz

it's a strange thing that this guy tried to cheat you but also wasted time in sending you an envelope... who knows...
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post #8 of 30
7/1/09 at 4:43am
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Cause he trid to let me close the paypal dispute.
He sent out a blank letter after I open the dispute.
He sent the blank letter for getting an existent sending number.
Then made it seems trackable.
He tried to pretend that he really sent something from Germany to Taiwan.
Also, he provided that sending number to Paypal.
He also tried to cheat Paypal.
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post #9 of 30
7/1/09 at 5:05am
That's why it is mandatory to include a paper with your forum nickname (i.e. rocco@honestforum) to your screenshots to proof that you are really have that item you are trying to sell. I've seen it several times, that pictures got stolen, but this mainly happen at ebay.
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post #10 of 30
7/1/09 at 5:16am
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Originally Posted by bezt178 View Post
Cause he trid to let me close the paypal dispute.
He sent out a blank letter after I open the dispute.
He sent the blank letter for getting an existent sending number.
Then made it seems trackable.
He tried to pretend that he really sent something from Germany to Taiwan.
Also, he provided that sending number to Paypal.
He also tried to cheat Paypal.
ok, got it now, that's what I was thinking
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post #11 of 30
7/1/09 at 6:33am
I hope you'll get your money back ... Don't think this is something specific to germany, can happen everywhere.
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post #12 of 30
7/1/09 at 7:29am
so very sorry this happened. its frustrating to see problems like this crop up,

did you file a dispute with paypal?
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post #13 of 30
7/1/09 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by Heyman View Post
I hope you'll get your money back ... Don't think this is something specific to germany, can happen everywhere.
sorry.I'm not mean to attack german people. I have very nice impression of Germany.

Just want to let german people know : there is one unhonest guy who is breaking the reputation of their country.
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post #14 of 30
7/1/09 at 10:22am
Wow... that's pretty messed up. Forward this thread to the folks at Paypal.

And the other person that this happened to - do the same. It's very important that we keep this site's integrity.

What can we do?
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post #15 of 30
7/1/09 at 10:26am
the reason the guy sent a letter is so he can provide the tracking number to paypal to win the dispute.
ive actually had to do that once because the person admitted they received my item but filed a dispute saying they never received it anyways so I sent them an envelope with nothing in it and delivery confirmation.

You will probably win the dispute if it shows the WEIGHT of the package on the post office site since it will obviously be way less than the weight of jeans...

good luck!!
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post #16 of 30
7/1/09 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by w0wieet View Post
the reason the guy sent a letter is so he can provide the tracking number to paypal to win the dispute.
ive actually had to do that once because the person admitted they received my item but filed a dispute saying they never received it anyways so I sent them an envelope with nothing in it and delivery confirmation.

You will probably win the dispute if it shows the WEIGHT of the package on the post office site since it will obviously be way less than the weight of jeans...

good luck!!
The size of that envelopment is 11cmX22cm.
It is impossible to put any jeans into it.
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post #17 of 30
7/1/09 at 11:30am
What a fucking douche. I am sorry to hear about this prick. I've only had one problem never recieving my merch and it wasn't even the sellers fault the fucking Post Office of all place lost my package.
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post #18 of 30
7/1/09 at 11:45am
the size wont matter as thats never on the website its just the weight is on there so check the tracking number on the post site that germany uses or whatever and see what info it has on that package
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post #19 of 30
7/1/09 at 12:06pm
sorry for the silly question, but can mods/admin take any action in such a situation?
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post #20 of 30
7/1/09 at 1:40pm
He is already banned and that is all that can be done as far as I know. Too bad HF doesn't have a beat down squad to send after this goon.
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post #21 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by Cez1029 View Post
He is already banned and that is all that can be done as far as I know. Too bad HF doesn't have a beat down squad to send after this goon.
I will organize one if you like, but only if I get to be the head goon
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post #22 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:26pm
^
lol, CUTUP. Screw being the head goon you're probably all we'd need.
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post #23 of 30
7/1/09 at 3:32pm
OK

Well then I get to eat him, we cant have evidence just lying around in case someone starts asking questions
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post #24 of 30
7/1/09 at 4:18pm
I have friends in Germany. Maybe they can kick his ass or something.
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post #25 of 30
7/1/09 at 4:42pm
Couldn't the OP just do a credit card charge back too, in case PayPal didn't work?
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