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Do I have the right to inform bidders the jeans are fake?

post #1 of 9
11/21/04 at 5:52pm
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It just seems to me tons of people are unaware! I would have appreciated if someone emailed me to let me know... opinions???
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post #2 of 9
11/21/04 at 6:10pm

I think you can

I dont think this is a violation of ebay policies (could be wrong) and I remember reading an article a while back in the NY times about people intentionally bidding huge sums and then welshing in an attempt to prevent fraud...

I have actually done this a couple of times, and usually the response I get is "thanks." Even if you do inform a bidder that their item is fake, they cannot reneg on the bid without possibly damaging their feedback, and its plausible that they already know what they're buying is a fake. I've given up on doing stuff like that.
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post #3 of 9
11/21/04 at 6:40pm
You cannot contact another seller's bidders in a current auction to tell them that they are bidding on a fake item. That is called auction interference and it is grounds for suspension from eBay if the seller complains.
I'm sure if you've already done this sort of thing, it gave you a warm fuzzy "saving the world from scammers" feeling but you need to understand that competitors try this tactic to hurt their chief competition unfairly. If you're also selling the same merchandise, then your motives become instantly suspect.
Try directing folks to Dave's educational sites and let them learn/decide for themselves.
My credentials? In eBay- land I know the difference between my butt and and a hot rock; I'm a powerseller with 6 years of experience.
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post #4 of 9
11/21/04 at 6:42pm
I used to check the bid history and email the buyers that the item was fake. Then I realized my efforts were fruitless. I tried to educate the ebay community as a whole, so fakes would just stop generating profits and thus dissapear. I learned that there are far too many to contact them all though. While the people whose wallets I did save from fraud were really appreciative, there were often pissed off sellers who threatened to report me to ebay, etc.
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post #5 of 9
11/21/04 at 6:51pm
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Thanks for the info... you're right it would take wayyy too long to inform everyone and I didn't know it was not allowed by ebay... I could see how another seller could use that tactic to their advantage. All I wanted to do is just inform innocent people like me before I knew of this site yesterday.
How about if you just emailed a bidder and only said "hey, check out this website www.fakeseven.com ?"
IS that still interfering even if I am not telling hte person directly they're fake?
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post #6 of 9
11/21/04 at 7:46pm
Technically that's called spamming and it's not allowed either. The problem is with contacting bidders. I understand your frustration with the problem though, and what I do as a public service is to answer authenticity questions on the ebay boards (especially the clothing and accessories board) with links to Dave's sites. You have to creatively type the web addresses to avoid having your post deleted but I feel this is the most effective, and least damaging to me, solution to the problem.

It's a big problem with complications like sellers who are unaware/uncaring and buyers who don't care they're buying fakes. Learn how eBay works, and then find creative solutions to help, then teach others a way that gets the message out.
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post #7 of 9
11/21/04 at 8:41pm

Re: I think you can

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Originally Posted by blm14
I dont think this is a violation of ebay policies (could be wrong) and I remember reading an article a while back in the NY times about people intentionally bidding huge sums and then welshing in an attempt to prevent fraud...

I have actually done this a couple of times, and usually the response I get is "thanks." Even if you do inform a bidder that their item is fake, they cannot reneg on the bid without possibly damaging their feedback, and its plausible that they already know what they're buying is a fake. I've given up on doing stuff like that.
I have had people do what you have done to me before on Ebay and what I do is get a friend to bid on their items and then leave real nasty feedback or have them call Ebay and tell them their merchandise is fake and get their accounts suspended and they never know where it came from being a third party did it. So I wouldnt fuck with peoples livelyhoods.
Your full of crap if you get a Lauren polo for $15 you know full well its a gray market item that may or may not be authentic. People just want the name without the price.
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post #8 of 9
11/21/04 at 8:47pm

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Not to mention the fact that when you mess with some one you don't know you may end up with someone burning your house down or putting a bullet in you like that kid in KC or wherever it was that fucked with some guy onEbay the guy got his address through a deal on Ebay went and drove like 300 miles to his house and shot him in the head. I saw that on the news 6-12 months ago. I know this is just my opinion but people are old enough to know what decisions they are making and they know if something is that cheap and is authentic then its stolen which raises a whole other issue.
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post #9 of 9
11/22/04 at 6:57pm

Re: I think you can

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Originally Posted by galenabound
I have had people do what you have done to me before on Ebay
So you're saying you sell fakes.
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