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post #126 of 142
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Ya know, when I was posting the chimp picture (which the NY Post has since apologized for), I remembered that people used to always compare GW Bush to a chimp. And I thought to myself, "How is this different?"

Then I realized it's different because black people don't call white people monkeys to dehumanize them!

W was very chimplike in those pics, though.

All white people are racist by default then?
post #127 of 142
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Then I realized it's different because black people don't call white people monkeys to dehumanize them
maybe we can learn something from these chimps
post #128 of 142
Learn to love your local odd-eyed albino?
post #129 of 142
/\ hey dude don't you have a cat like that?
post #130 of 142
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All white people are racist by default then?
Why would you even ask such a stupid question?
post #131 of 142
Nicole, we have a total difference of opinion politically, but I always appreciate the way you write things in a non-offensive, solid voice. (And I totally agree with that last post of yours- it was in terrible taste, regardless of the intended meaning.)
post #132 of 142
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/\ hey dude don't you have a cat like that?
Two, in fact!
post #133 of 142
I was mean to Nicole once upon a time but not anymore. Contrary to popular belief, it had nothing to do with her being military, but rather to do with a comment she made that just got under my skin...it was one of those cynical "See a societal problem, blame the victims of the problem for the problem" posts. But by and large, she communicates rather effectively...just thought that needed to be said
post #134 of 142
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I was mean to Nicole once upon a time but not anymore. Contrary to popular belief, it had nothing to do with her being military, but rather to do with a comment she made that just got under my skin...it was one of those cynical "See a societal problem, blame the victims of the problem for the problem" posts. But by and large, she communicates rather effectively...just thought that needed to be said
I can appreciate that. You and I will never agree on much, but this is a good start.

I once had a college professor who told me the mark of an educated person is the ability to see both sides of a situation no matter how we feel personally. I believe it to this day and I always try to see both sides even if I don't agree.

I also know that I can be cynical at times but that is just me. It just doesn't go over well on the internet.
post #135 of 142
Yeah. The comment that ticked me off was some kinda political response in a non-political thread. Some young black kid had made the news for something, like stealing a car at six years old, and I think you made some comment that just struck me as a cynical, FOX-News-esque attempt to use the story to poke at the notion that government should help people. I thought it was out of context and out of line in that thread (which was funny up until that point).

But, you're not a totally deluded rich housewife (like some peeps on here). We'd probably agree on more than you think we would, but internets makes extremes out of nuance. +1 to you though...sorry I was a jerk
post #136 of 142
Here's the deal- I don't mind people with a difference of opinion as long as they are clear and educated on their reasons. I can't expect anyone else to understand my point of view perfectly, and vice versa. But I can appreciate someone really believing what they believe in... makes for good conversation.

Nicole, you're super smart and I think we'd have fun hanging out and having civil debates in person. If you're ever in Denver I'll take you out for a drink.
post #137 of 142
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Yeah. The comment that ticked me off was some kinda political response in a non-political thread. Some young black kid had made the news for something, like stealing a car at six years old, and I think you made some comment that just struck me as a cynical, FOX-News-esque attempt to use the story to poke at the notion that government should help people. I thought it was out of context and out of line in that thread (which was funny up until that point).

But, you're not a totally deluded rich housewife (like some peeps on here). We'd probably agree on more than you think we would, but internets makes extremes out of nuance. +1 to you though...sorry I was a jerk
I remember the thread but I don't remember what I said. It was the thread about the 7 year old that stole the car and then made news again when he beat up his grandmother because she wouldn't buy him fried chicken at walmart.

Its all good man. We probably do agree on a lot of things and I find it good to talk to people I don't agree with. Once upon a time (this was a long time ago) I was against gay marriage, not because I didn't like gays but because I didn't see a point to it if they weren't going to have kids. One night I met a flaming liberal guy at a bar and we both started talking about what our views were and why. When I could not come up with a good reason as to why two people who love each other could not marry, right then and there, I realized I had to rethink my views. The key thing is that we talked and didn't get in each others faces about it. Much more can be accomplished this way IMO.
post #138 of 142
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Originally Posted by dannysgirl45 View Post
Here's the deal- I don't mind people with a difference of opinion as long as they are clear and educated on their reasons. I can't expect anyone else to understand my point of view perfectly, and vice versa. But I can appreciate someone really believing what they believe in... makes for good conversation.

Nicole, you're super smart and I think we'd have fun hanging out and having civil debates in person. If you're ever in Denver I'll take you out for a drink.
I'll take the drink but not the debate. If I come out there I will be on vacation lol. It would be a good time. My husband has 3 sisters and 3 brothers there so we need to come visit soon. I get bored with the women though because they all mind what their husbands tell them *rolls eyes*. One of my sisters in law even stands behind her husband the whole time he is eating and he just thinks he’s something else. It makes me want to puke but I endure it cause its not my business if they want to let their men walk all over them. I am expected to be "good" so I cannot be myself around them. Oh well.
post #139 of 142
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Why would you even ask such a stupid question?
Just answer the question in 2500 words or less please.
post #140 of 142
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I'll take the drink but not the debate. If I come out there I will be on vacation lol. It would be a good time. My husband has 3 sisters and 3 brothers there so we need to come visit soon. I get bored with the women though because they all mind what their husbands tell them *rolls eyes*. One of my sisters in law even stands behind her husband the whole time he is eating and he just thinks he’s something else. It makes me want to puke but I endure it cause its not my business if they want to let their men walk all over them. I am expected to be "good" so I cannot be myself around them. Oh well.
Haha, well drinks then. I hate women like that- I think one of the reasons that a relationship can be/can not be successful has a lot to do with people losing their identities in order to make the other person happy. Part of the reason I fell in love with Danny to begin with is his passion for things HE'S interested in- and the fact that he could care less about the things I'm interested in, but wants me to pursue whatever it is that I enjoy.

There are few things less attractive than being with someone who's a clone.
post #141 of 142
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Haha, well drinks then. I hate women like that- I think one of the reasons that a relationship can be/can not be successful has a lot to do with people losing their identities in order to make the other person happy. Part of the reason I fell in love with Danny to begin with is his passion for things HE'S interested in- and the fact that he could care less about the things I'm interested in, but wants me to pursue whatever it is that I enjoy.

There are few things less attractive than being with someone who's a clone.
I'm not sure if any of them had identities to begin with other than one day grow up and be a wife and mother. If they are happy that way then thats all good for them and its none of my business. I don't hate them, I just don't like hanging around them because they bore me. I bow down to no man. Never have never will. I will be a cold day in hell that I stand at a mans elbow while he eats. Let the sum bitch get his own food. I have a hard time understanding it but I respect their choices as long as they don't try to push them on me. My husband is not like that and if he was I would never be with him.

Their relationships are successful in that their men can do whatever they want to, including cheating and they just take it and deal with it. It’s a good deal for them lol. There will be no divorce in most cases because they were married by church (this is a huge deal for some in the Hispanic community).
post #142 of 142
dude...just give him sometime!!
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