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Real x-rotuck jeans?

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've found this seller on ebay.
Do you think that what he sells are real diesel?
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQgotopage...sortpropertyZ1
In fact, i'm looking for a real X rotuck in 30*32 or 29*32 and i don't know where to find real ones, even used, because the model is no longer available in France
do you think this one is real?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...9491 200&rd=1
Sorry for my English, and i hope someone could help me
Thanks.
post #2 of 15
Hi emmanuel,

Judging from the seller's second picture (http://nucite.com/host/is.php?i=1111...el.11.04.0.jpg), they look real. I am basing this on the fact that I can see the "shine/glow" that I see in most pictures of authentic Diesel jeans. However, I still am not too sure. You would need more information before deducting whether or not these jeans were fake or not, such as microstitching, etc.

On the same note, I wouldn't bid on this seller's items. I came accross the same seller 4 days ago when I was searching for Zathans in 30x30. I sent him a question and asked him to send me a close-up of the Indian head tag since he asserted they were authentic. 3 days later, no response. I logged on to my other ebay account, and asked him simply whether or not the jeans were authentic. Not knowing that I am the same person who emailed him before, he responds, "yes" - this shows that he has been checking his emails and simply ignored my other question. I then sent a reply to his email confirming that they were authentic, and I asked him, "If these are authentic, how come you ignored my other email about the microstitching? Can you prove they are authentic by sending me a close-up picture of the Indian head tag?". 2 days later... still no response.

I believe this to be a seller who asserts the authenticity to buyers who can't tell the difference, just offering the money back guarantee if by chance he sells to an informed buyer and they call him on the fake.

Make of it what you will, but I've hardly ever seen a 30x30 authentic zathan on ebay, and his ignoring my questions makes me weary. My advise is to stay away, but, of course, you're free to do as you wish .
post #3 of 15
The ones in the 2nd link are fake.. the fake 796 x-rotucks are very good though..
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've sent a mail asking for a picture of the interior tag. I'm going to let you know if he answers me.
post #5 of 15

benchang

could you contact me, please,...about those zathans thanks a lot
post #6 of 15
Thread Starter 
I've got an answer by mail this morning. He told me that he has trouble with his camera, but he promises me that he sells real zathan and x-rotuck.... I think i won't buy in order to find real x-rotuck.
post #7 of 15

in my opinion

Have you tried to contact dieselofmiami? He might be able to find one for you.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
No, i'm going to ask him. i've bought a zathan 772 from him and it was real. It's one of the only who sell real, and the delivery from USA to France was made in 3 days. I'm gonna send him a mail
thanks
post #9 of 15
Yup this is some real stuff. If you think they're not real, simply dont bid. I dont think there should be any reason for a seller to go out of his way to take pictures of little microscopic tags on jeans just cause the bidder may have OCD. Get over it, guys. This is the marketplace. Either you are in or out. Anyone else agree?
post #10 of 15

rules

Quote:
Yup this is some real stuff
please say I believe this is some real stuff. or it is my opinion that these are authentic.

please do not state opinions as facts.
post #11 of 15
No, Z-

1st: auction's been over for a month

2nd: if seller represents them as real, he/she should be able to prove it- too many counterfeits- and sellers should know this.

If returns were automatic (or even close to it), we could be more lenient- if paypal worked more like escrow, we wouldn't have to worry so much.

The thought of saving 50% on a pair is jeans is great, the thought of paying $80-$100 for a piece of junk makes me sick to my stomach...

I'll err on the side of caution and ask for advice, no matter how obvious or stupid the ? may seem...
post #12 of 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZATHANSRULE
Yup this is some real stuff. If you think they're not real, simply dont bid. I dont think there should be any reason for a seller to go out of his way to take pictures of little microscopic tags on jeans just cause the bidder may have OCD. Get over it, guys. This is the marketplace. Either you are in or out. Anyone else agree?
Well, I think that its the buyer's right to ask for an image which will prove or disprove an items authenticity. It is, of course, the sellers right at that point to refuse to do so. At which point the buyer is also free to not bid/buy. That's the essence of the marketplace; An informed consumer is a good consumer. I think its perfectly reasonable and in fact desireable for a buyer to educate themselves about what they're buying.

Similarly to how I expect sellers to use photos of the actual item in a listing and not website stock photos or a single photo for a whole shipment of wholesale items. Thats just how I am. I want to know what I'm getting. Call it obsessive compulsive disorder, but I call it common sense.
post #13 of 15
In Ohio (where I'm located), possession of a known piece of counterfeit clothing is a 1st degree misdemeanor (punishable by up to a yr in jail and/or fines up to $10K).

-Baldwin's Ohio Revised Code Ann. (sec.) 2913.34 (2004)

post #14 of 15
correct citation for reference...


Ohio Rev. Code Ann. §2913.34(A)(2) (Baldwin 2004)
post #15 of 15
i believe these jeans are real... just too good to be fake..
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