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post #101 of 231
7/8/08 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by diesel_dreamz View Post
Now if only you as were as qualified to talk about clothing

Bickering aside, In all seriousness the way I see it is Radiohead are the equivelent of books like Animal farm / 1984 / War and Peace (books they've referenced in their works especially hail to the thief and Kid A) they're the high brow interlectual band and like those books are refered to as high brow, intelectual and genius. Coldplay they're more the shy kids who write poetry books about their feelings. Nothing wrong with that at all, except of course in the grand scheme of things Radiohead (being the high brow intelectual band) will always get the most recognition.
It has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with the musical complexity/talent of the two bands in comparison with one another.

Radiohead isn't my favorite band (I need more hair in my rock) but I'll listen to them any day over Coldplay. Radiohead is progressive-ish music made by artists; Coldplay is just AIM signature material for when you're feeling blue.

If the most intellectual/brainy rock groups really got the mot recognition, then Muse would be bigger than Radiohead or Coldplay, and the Mars Volta would be bigger than all of them...but it ain't that way. Coldplay is probably the most popular because their music appeals to a lower common denominator.
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post #102 of 231
7/8/08 at 10:53pm
Popularity has a lot to do with the way the music reflects on the people who listen to it, and how the whole song is put together. This can range from catchiness to the meaning behind the song. Is it fair to say that because a band is popular that it most likely be because they've TRIED to appeal to mass public rather than making what they want and hoping people are interested? CP and Radiohead may have equal amounts of passion for their music and what they produce and it just so happens that CP have been more publicized. I mean, who is to say that the complexity of one band is better than the complexity of the other band? I find complexity has MUCH more to do with a persons attachment for the music rather than a complex scrutiny of each song. Out of example, under what criteria is to say that Creep or something is more complex and musically talented than Yellow? Its totally subjective of the personal taste of the listener. Of course each person will have difference of opinion. One person may find AC/DC to be lightyears ahead of Gun's N Roses while the other may feel the opposite.
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post #103 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:13pm
just need to establish another point:

muse are unbelievably shite
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post #104 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:15pm
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Originally Posted by jskidder View Post
this is actually probably the most accurate statement anyone has made yet in this thread.

True, but he should have given credit to the original author, Chuck Klosterman:

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Fake love is a very powerful thing. That girl who adored John Cusack once had the opportunity to spend a weekend with me in New York at the Waldorf-Astoria, but she elected to fly to Portland instead to see the first U.S. appearance by Coldplay, a British pop group whose success derives from their ability to write melodramatic alt-rock songs about fake love. It does not matter that Coldplay is absolutely the shittiest fucking band I've ever heard in my entire fucking life, or that they sound like a mediocre photocopy of Travis (who sound like a mediocre photocopy of Radiohead), or that their greatest fucking artistic achievement is a video where their blandly attractive frontman walks on a beach on a cloudy fucking afternoon. None of that matters. What matters is that Coldplay manufactures fake love as frenetically as the Ford fucking Motor Company manufactures Mustangs, and that's all this woman heard. "For you I bleed myself dry," sang their blockhead vocalist, brilliantly informing us that stars in the sky are, in fact, yellow. How am I going to compete with that shit? That sleepy-eyed bozo isn't even making sense. He's just pouring fabricated emotions over four gloomy guitar chords, and it ends up sounding like love. And what does that mean? It means she flies to fucking Portland to hear two hours of amateurish U.K. hyper-slop, and I sleep alone in a $270 hotel in Manhattan, and I hope Coldplay gets fucking dropped by fucking EMI and ends up like the Stone fucking Roses, who were actually a better fucking band, all things considered.
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post #105 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:20pm
i can't believe i didn't catch that. i fucking LOVE chuck klosterman!
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post #106 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:21pm
chuck klosterman is hardly the first person to suggest that. if travis had cracked america, we would never have heard of coldplay. hell, even if starsailor or alfie sold some records state side.
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post #107 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:30pm
starsailor actually generated a decent amount of buzz here in the states but they just didn't capitalize on it...
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post #108 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:46pm
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Originally Posted by jskidder View Post
i can't believe i didn't catch that. i fucking LOVE chuck klosterman!
Haha yeah I pretty much have that book memorized, so it's the first thing I thought of, that's probably my favorite chapter as well. It was a great introduction, for me, to his writing in general.
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post #109 of 231
7/8/08 at 11:50pm
Chuck Klosterman: Good author; terrible ESPN columnist.
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post #110 of 231
7/9/08 at 2:52am
Talking about Radiohead, i recently got a ripped show in HD "Radiohead - In Rainbows - From The Basement". Broadcasted on MHD ( MTV high definition channel) - May 4th, 2008
Video Bitrate: 17.69 Mbps Average
Video Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Audio BitRate.....: 384 / 48 kHz
Audio Channels....: 2.0
size: 5.59 GB

simply fabulous

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post #111 of 231
7/9/08 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by ross View Post
It has nothing to do with that, and everything to do with the musical complexity/talent of the two bands in comparison with one another.

Radiohead isn't my favorite band (I need more hair in my rock) but I'll listen to them any day over Coldplay. Radiohead is progressive-ish music made by artists; Coldplay is just AIM signature material for when you're feeling blue.

If the most intellectual/brainy rock groups really got the mot recognition, then Muse would be bigger than Radiohead or Coldplay, and the Mars Volta would be bigger than all of them...but it ain't that way. Coldplay is probably the most popular because their music appeals to a lower common denominator.

Right on Ross, I agree 100%
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post #112 of 231
7/9/08 at 8:39am
Keane FTW

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post #113 of 231
7/9/08 at 9:01am
May I add for the record that there is NO worse band than Nickelback. There's been countless threads about them using the exact same riffs on mutiple songs. That and they're very annoying.
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post #114 of 231
7/9/08 at 9:44am
Coldplay is like the Dane Cook/Mencia of music...Unoriginal, crappy, and over-rated.
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post #115 of 231
7/9/08 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by Anton View Post
Coldplay is like the Dane Cook/Mencia of music...Unoriginal, crappy, and over-rated.
If Coldplay was a small, "up and coming" indie band running out of MySpace, would you still say the same thing? I highly doubt it.
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post #116 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:20pm
Opinions please:

The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones

Erasure vs Pet Shop Boys

Led Zeppelin vs Pink Floyd

Britney vs Xtina

OMD vs ABC

Timbaland vs The Neptunes

Nirvana vs Pearl Jam

Stone Temple Pilots vs Soundgarden

Hootie and the Blowfish vs Dave Matthew Band

Charlie Sheen vs Emilio Estevez

Jim Beam vs Jack Daniels

Paper vs Plastic
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post #117 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:32pm
** Before Anyone Did Anything, Elvis Did Everything !!!
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post #118 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:38pm
I'm pretty sure Elvis was influenced heavily by other artists / styles
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post #119 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:40pm
^^ Honestly I dunno, its just a saying....thats all.... Pointless thread !
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post #120 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by ri0tp00f View Post
Opinions please:

The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones

Erasure vs Pet Shop Boys - never got into either

Led Zeppelin vs Pink Floyd (R.Waters era)

Britney vs Xtina No thanks

OMD vs ABC - ?

Timbaland -(94 era) vs The Neptunes

Nirvana vs Pearl Jam

Stone Temple Pilots vs Soundgarden

Hootie and the Blowfish vs Dave Matthew Band Neither

Charlie Sheen vs Emilio Estevez - The mighty Duckman

Jim Beam vs Jack Daniels Neither

Paper vs Plastic - I prefer my own
Oh really good survey! It's really a matter of taste and opinion but please feel free to disagree.
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post #121 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:49pm
mad respek to a guy who uses his own grocery bags

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Originally Posted by ri0tp00f View Post
Opinions please:

The Beatles vs The Rolling Stones

Erasure vs Pet Shop Boys

Led Zeppelin vs Pink Floyd

Britney vs Xtina

OMD vs ABC

Timbaland vs The Neptunes

Nirvana vs Pearl Jam

Stone Temple Pilots vs Soundgarden

Hootie and the Blowfish vs Dave Matthew Band Neither

Charlie Sheen vs Emilio Estevez

Jim Beam vs Jack Daniels Not Sure

Paper vs Plastic
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post #122 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:52pm
^
we all got to do our part
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post #123 of 231
7/9/08 at 12:53pm
Cez1029 : +1 man ! I use my own bags too...
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post #124 of 231
7/9/08 at 3:03pm
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Cez1029 : +1 man ! I use my own bags too...
As do I!

Zodiac, don't take my neg on your Elvis comment personally. I love Elvis but he has no place in this discussion, really.

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Originally Posted by Diesel_dreamz
I mean, who is to say that the complexity of one band is better than the complexity of the other band?
It's pretty easy, actually.

You'll find that the further down the scale of popularity you go, the more complex - ie. difficult to reproduce - the music becomes. Because technically complex music usually isn't radio-friendly. What's radio-friendly is catchy hooks, easy lyrics, and a dreamy frontman singing about love. Popular music is necessarily simpler because it's easier to remember and requires less of a commitment out of its listener.

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Originally Posted by Diesel-Dreamz
Out of example, under what criteria is to say that Creep or something is more complex and musically talented than Yellow? Its totally subjective of the personal taste of the listener.
I guess I'm saying that it really isn't. Either a song is more complex and more well-produced than another song, or it isn't.

I didn't always think this way - I thought that Iron Maiden kicked Dream Theater's ass. But once I started listening to rock with a couple guys that actually played in bands, they opened my eyes to the technical side of things. Now I listen to Dream Theater or Mars Volta or even Muse and Primus and just go "Holy shit..." when I hear a sick solo. But it requires a lot of patience, because a song that's technically strong isn't always an easy song to rock out to if you catch it on the radio.
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post #125 of 231
7/9/08 at 4:41pm
GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR.
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