Originally Posted by Malencontreux
1. I am a gay man. I do think like a lot of women when it comes to certain things, especially when it comes to situations like this. My girlfriends feel more comfortable walking around in the dark than I do.
2. I wasn't calling you stupid by implying you weren't college educated. I just see a very common scenario that could possibly happen if people were running around with concealed weapons. I'd be sketched out if I was at a party and I knew there were a bunch of drunk women on the dance floor with handguns in their coach wristlets because they have to walk home later and are afraid they might get raped.
3. Yes, you have to take classes and need to be trained to own a gun. You used the analogy of having a driving license and being trained, that being said -- how many people break the law on a daily basis with their drivings license. Fuck, some people shouldn't even have a license. That being said, get a few shots of liquor into a someone and their judgement is impaired, just like with driving... and when it's appropriate to use a gun.
I'll take my chances with a criminal, I may live to regret saying this but as of right now, this is what I think. The amount of severe crimes like this happening compared to how many people are living in the states -- I think it's relatively low. Also, like 3demon said -- people need to learn self-defense techniques without going to a firearm. People also just need to employ a little common sense -- I've done it a few times to avoid a sticky and possibly soon-to-be violent situations. She could've knocked on someone's door like you suggested, that's what I would've done. Just a few days earlier, when I was moving stuff into my new home and there were a bunch of homeless guys hanging around, I yelled back into the backyard "Hey guys, I'll be back with some more stuff. I'll need your help with setting up the desk and stuff!" so that those people would think there were people in the house/backyard so they would probably be a lot more hesitant to rob me or enter the premises.
You may think like a woman, but you LOOK like a man. Gay or straight, you are still a man and therefore are far less likely to be targeted by a rapist.
You would be subject to the same laws a criminal would be if they toted a gun to an evening out and pulled it on an innocent stranger. Use some of that "common sense" and think that someone else might be able to use it a well. If you are in a group of women at a bar, how likely are you to be walking home alone?
It's about how and WHEN to use it. With no law in place, random people carry weapons who don't know how to use them. You hear of people pulling weapons, having it taken away and are killed by their own weapon, because they had no idea HOW to use it or were afraid to use it or having it stolen from them and used in another crime, etc. You think with this, and that is great, but that is not what the case would be if there were laws for conceled weapons, which there are, even now. As it is now, even in your own home if you kill an intruder you can be arrested. Law abiding citizens will continue to abide by the law.
They will not all of a sudden become vigilanties, waving their gun at every little squirrel that moves. Owning a gun does not make you crazy, suddenly you will think you are Rambo on a mission to kill every person walking at night. If anything it makes you more cautious, at least it does for me.
Listen, I don't want to argue with you, I think it's great that you believe in something one way or another. Kids your age rarely have opinions on things that they have no experience with so you have that going for you. But call me when you are a victim of a violent crime or better yet your Mother is a victim or your sister or your best female friend or your boyfriend or if you ever plan to adopt and one of your children is a victim of a violent crime. I highly doubt your first reaction would be " OMG! How incredibly lucky she was not to be carrying a gun because some innocent bystander could have been hurt." You'll be thinking of all the horrible thing you want to do to the person who did it and wishing she was better prepared to take care of herself.
Self defense is great but I completely agree with Christine, people on drugs have no pain, they are numb, they have no conscience, they have no control. They are by far the worst type of criminal to deal with. They will do anything, take anything, overcome anything. Police with bats, guns and tasers can hardly control them, GROUPS of police have trouble controlling them. I think my 106 pound body would be in some deep shit if I ever tried to Judo kick one of them. I better hope he goes down hard because the beating and god forbid what else I would take after that would be extreme and probably end my life, as I know it anyway.