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Then we will have people coming here and starting threads and posting video about someone being tased and how unfair and wrong it is. We have had a ton of these rage at "the man" threads already.

I am personally very hesitant to make statements about who deserves to die and who does not. I have someone in my immediate family who has killed another person (self-defense) and lets just say taking another's life is not something to be taken lightly...

Hrm, this seems a pretty large assumption. Do we have statistics as to what percentage of gun-related drug violence was committed by legally licensed handguns? Plenty of legally purchased guns still end up in the hands of criminals (taken across state lines from places with more lenient gun laws). Given the difficulty of even TRACKING an individual weapons' ownership (no central registry) I'm not sure we even have enough information to make statements like this.

Just because you're buying a gun legally and are not PERSONALLY involved in the drug trade doesn't mean that the guns you're buying legally aren't ending up in the hands of criminals. The point is that once we pass the initial point-of-sale nobody really KNOWS what happens with guns, which is part of the overall problem of proliferation to begin with.

More guns = more gun violence. Its kind of unavoidable. Edit: at least this is the case under our current system. If you use the example of Switzerland, where every citizen is given a rifle by the government (gun ownership 100%!) if someone commits a crime with a gun, you could use forensic evidence or the gun itself to identify at least who the nominal gun owner was, if not the actual criminal. We don't have that option here.

I said most people not most guns. Criminals are going to get the guns anyway and very few of them do it legally. If someone breaks into my home and steals my gun and uses it in the drug trade that does not make me responsible or part of the drug trade.

None of this is any reason for me not to be able to have a gun if I choose to.

The problem with the data collected on rape is the definition of rape itself. It can mean a whole lot of different things. However my information came from a speaker I herd while attending a discussion on the rights of the condemned. Most male on male rape does occur in prison.

I was going to say that a while back, but I thought people would be assuming I'd be talking out of my ass. Then there's the whole contraction of HIV/AIDs & STI's because prisons don't generally hand out condoms to their male prisoners.

^^This is true. When I worked in a prison we didn't distribute condoms for various reasons. One being that they would put things in them, swallow them and then have to get a major operation to remove the blockage. Then would turn around and sue the state for handing them out in the first place. I could never just throw my latex gloves in the trash either because they would take them out and use them as condoms or as a "fi fi". I don't know the correct spelling of that since it is a prison term. I had to keep each set that I used on me until I got to a place where I could get rid of them.

We did have one major incident while I was there in which 5 or so guys got a hold of a child molester. He had to be sewn back together. There were a lot of supposedly heterosexual guys who had relationships (not just sexual but like they were married) with other inmates and I would see them visiting with their wives and children on visitation day.

Yeah, I took an AIDs and STD's class and we learned about sex workers, but specifically MSM. They're not just homosexual guys, they're guys who sometimes consider themselves heterosexual and have sex with other men and then with their wives. Sexuality is a really complicated thing. What is "fi fi" by the way?

Random question; have you ever tasted toilet wine?

Nevermind, I just looked up fifi. Gross... what ever happened to just spit?

who says HF is getting less popular? i <3 reading threads (i mean the debate) like this...i learn something everytime!

If its what I am thinking of they called it buck. I never tasted anything there. Very bad idea. They didn't make it in the shitters though.

There were a few times when I was working there that a "domestic squabble" between two guys broke out. It would have been funny in any other situation but was not at the time as this can cause a full blown riot. We had to lock them in segregation but they were put in cells across from each other and one of them asked me to move out of the way so he could throw piss on the other guy. All I could do was move. They were back together a week later but they were both married to women.

Oh, I also found a few fi fis during my time while doing searches. It was so gross. I hated that job but had to leave school so I could support myself. I only made $1800 a month. Can you believe that shit?

But it's the guns that are the issue of discussion, no? That is, were there no gun involved at all the topic would not have even come up. So just ignoring all legally-purchased guns doesn't quite cover the whole issue.

What a fatalistic attitude! You don't see that process of getting guns as easier when the total number of weapons (legally or illegally obtained at point of sale) is greater?

No but it does mean that you provided the gun. Either you were put into a situation where you were forced to surrender it (and not having it would have prevented this) or you stored in somewhere that was easy for someone else to find (again, not having it would have prevented this). You can't just ignore the cases where legally purchased guns are used in crime. It happens fairly often.

Agreed.

I didn't have a chance to read this thread, but I did read the article and had it mentioned to me by several people throughout the week. I honestly believe that this man should be inhumanly punished, right to the very brink of death, and then forced to be kept alive, to suffer in the way that he made this women suffer. We all have "rights," which many people seem to forget are actually privileges. You lose these privileges once you violate the rights of someone else. He was willing to ruin someone else's life so quickly, I say we ruin his.

So what if someone steals my car and uses it to kill someone?

At least we agree on something Ben. This doesn't happen very often.

Then you are part of the drug trade.

Are you kidding, BLM???

I'm saying I haven't seen any actual numbers showing how frequently a legally PURCHASED gun is used in a drug-related crime. Just because it was legally purchased doesn't mean the person who ultimately uses it for the drug crime was the initial purchaser.

If you have found such stats, please feel free to share. Otherwise, yes, it's an assumption. I don't like to make assumptions because I've found personally that when I do I am often proven wrong. So now I try to base things on fact, if at all possible.

I think it would happen more often than you think, were we to speak in a less-easily-misunderstood medium...

Imagine a world of Smash
I wonder if you can
No need for clothes or condoms
A brotherhood of Smash
Imagine all the people
Smashing all the world

You may say that I'm a smasher
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will smash as one

deep, mang.

True that.