MAC or PC? *poll* - Page 3

In school there was the whole bring in coupons and get Macs in the 90s. Ever since then I haven't used a Mac for more than a few minutes. Eventually I'd like to get one for music production but like you guys are saying, the price for roughly and equally equipped Mac is higher than that of a PC. I'm rocking a Lenovo Thinkpad T60 and it's the best damn computer/laptop I've ever had.

10.6 SNOW LEOPPPPPPPPPARD. Yea right...

It is a myth, a equally equipped PC from a manufacturer like Dell is similarly priced with Apple, sometimes Apple is even cheaper.

This was made by a french Canadian. Hilarious.



0:05 : Here's a public announcement
0:10 : I bought a Macbook
0:13 : And it crashes often
0:15 : But at least it's thin and it fits in an envelope
0:19 : I don't have an Iphone
0:21 : But I got a USB plug for an iPhone
0:24 : 2500 dollars but at least it fits in an envelope
0:28 : You drag your fingers accross the pad and then you lose all of your homework, two years of work
0:35 : BUT AT LEAST IT'S THIN AND IT FITS IN AN ENVELOPE
0:38: I can chat with other Macbooks but I'm the only one with a macbook
0:44: There's not even a cdrom drive
0:45 : SO WHAT'S UP WITH THAT, FUCK !?
0:48 : I've got a port for a projector
0:50 : So I bought a projector, 12,000$ in debts but at least it fits in an envelope
0:58 : Now I'm broke and I hav to live at my Mom's
1:03 : All of that because of my FUCKING MACBOOK
1:05 ; THAT FITS IN AN ENVELOPE
1:12 : EAT SHIT !

Damn well put.

Whatever downloads "porn" effortlessly, FTW.

Then Mac wins hands down, this picture sums it all up, click to enlarge.



Nothing beats enabling "Private browsing" in Safari and go to whatever site you want without having to worry for virus/spyware/bloatware.

Straight from apple.com:

Apple Macbook:
$1099
2.1 core 2 duo
1 gig RAM
120 gb hd
=$1099

Dell XPS 1330:
$999
2.0 core 2 duo (+100)
2 gig RAM
160 gb hd
fingerprint reader
$1099

Regardless of the OS, you get more from the dell. And this is their XPS gaming line. Most people can get a decent laptop that will meet their needs for about $600-700. And most PC manufacturers will do.

whenever i go to my school's library and see some dude sitting with his 9 inch thick dell xps laptop it makes me laugh- those things are so effin gaudy and cheap looking that it reminds me of "play laptops" for kids at walmart vs. a real computer.

call me an elitist fanboy, i don't care- i'll pay significantly more for a well-designed product that a shittily designed one that is functionally similar. comparing that dell to a macbook is like comparing a souped-up 1992 civic ricer to an equally fast new bmw. all these people would say "omg why would you spend $30k when you can get the same thing for less?" but they're not the same-there are fundamental differences that are beyond monetary measurement.

If you wanted to prove a point, at least make it sound. Apple and PCs get the same intel chips, hard drives, RAM, video cards, motherboards (from China/Taiwan), etc... The only thing you are paying for more is the design of the case and the OS. Hardly a souped-up 1992 civic vs new bmw.

the computer im currently using is

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someone should chew apple out until they sell their operating system separately

This is exactly the reason why anyone in IT-land hates mac-users as opposed to feeling indifferent about the product itself. It's the baseless holier-than-though attitude that most Mac users feel about everyone else who isn't using one. These users can't even explain what UNIX is other than, "My OS is built from it and Steve told me it's way better."

BLM hit the nail on the head.

mac

You know why the IT-land hates Mac?

Because they don't want to lose their jobs.

Macs are so much easier to manage than Windows.

who cares? Just use whatever you like. This arguement could go on for days. For me, I will always use mac. Always have and always will.

oh and Anton, I don't think you have a clue about what you are saying. You might want go do your research about that. That may have been true in the 90s, but things have changed.

Because mac can't do what Servers & Mainframes, and other big computers that run most of the backbone of this country.

Your vision of IT is so bottleneck... it's quite ignorant.

lol, have you seen xserve Apple - Xserve and OS X server Apple - Mac OS X Server

Even your US Military is using it Apple - IT Pro - The U.S. Army reaches out to the public with Apple

You still haven't backed up your statement that it's a myth that pc cost less. Nfj even posted a link, think Mac can do better?

Us army website? Written on apple's website? Can you please do better?

I am looking for a place to upload two pdfs so you can compare the specs and price

Tommy, you can actually talk with my dad all about it. He runs the Threat Systems Management Office on the Redstone Arsenal Army Base here and they actually replaced all their servers with the Apple server. From all of his guys there and from him, it has been A LOT better than the previous one they used. Let me know if you want to hear about it and I am sure he can fill you in. Is that better than a link for you?

By the way, even if that Mac SEEM to be more expensive than PC (when you buy it), the cost of ownership in the long run is actually cheaper.

VERY old article: Welcome to LinuxInsider
Slightly old article: Windows 5x More Expensive than Mac OS X
Another one: Mac vs. PC cost analysis: How does it all add up?

There are more, but that's enough reading for you for now.

then again, the dell is running windows (and if it's running vista, you'll feel like the machine has 512mb of ram, not 2gb). top that with a year subscription to antivirus of your choice, malware tools, and trips to the (and i cringe when i say this, but people go anyways) "geek squad" and you're really paying about the same.

the mac, on the other hand, is pretty much fully functional out of the box. the design is 10x ergonomic and aesthetically pleasing. the os is less of a hassle as well.

the argument that the cheaper machine will suffice is invalid, you're on a forum where we pay 5x for a pair of jeans where jeans from gap will "meet their needs"

Windows generally doesn't run on those big servers and mainframes as well.
You'd likely see UNIX or Linux on them because they handle symmetric multiprocessing way better.

What hes referring to is networked computers. And hes rite when he says that macs are easier to manage than windows. Linux is even easier.

So I'd say your vision of IT is bottlenecked, sir.

MatthewK: I have a T60 as well, and have gotta say that in terms of look and feel, the macs are WAY better. I mean common, the entire lenovo line of laptops ever sence it was just IBM have looked like shit. Big bulky and black. I do love my Lenovo, but would take a macbook or MBP anyday.. plus instead of some stupid light on top of the screen, you get a webcam. how cool is that.

Apple designs their own technology, and a lot of what they've put out is unique. For example, you wouldn't find the magsafe adapter on any other laptop, or the multi touch trackpad. If anyone here has worked at an apple store they'll know what I'm talking about when I say they have really high standards in regards to customer service. The apple care is the best damn warrenty you can buy. My buddie bought a macbook pro two years ago, when random lines started appearing on his screen, they gave him a brand new MBP, with WAY better specs than his other one. for nothing. he bought new apple care on that one as well. Now tell me any other company that does this. I'd buy an apple computer just for the customer service.

I'd love to talk to him, but I highly doubt that anything else he'll chime in will be any different (as an attorney, I know that whatever he can divulge will be whatever is a matter of public record anyways). So yes I would love to talk to him.

There is actually a whole lot more behind the scenes that most people wouldn't know when it comes to mainframes, supercomputers, and big servers. Migration (and its costs) and backward compatibility is key, but I'm not at liberty to discuss those. If you want to know why, pm me.

are you going to show off that iMac to the world because it looks so much better? Each persons need are different.

The Mac/apple fanboys regardless of whatever the person's needs will automatically say go mac because the product looks good and the OS works so much better (no virus, etc...)

To say that because we pay so much money for jeans, we shouldn't save money to achieve our needs/wants... is kind of idiotic. We try to save money all the time by finding designer jeans on ebay, on sale, etc...

However most of them fail to acknowledge that it depends on the person's needs and whatever they set to spend. You gonna tell them they should spend $1500 on macbook because of the reasons above just because it's better? when they only use it for browsing the internet, sending email, and watching videos (whether it be tv or porn)?

Don't get me started on the virus thing. Hacking since the revolution of the computer age has been somewhat of a past time for most people, but the fun has been concentrated on where the bulk of the machines that contained sensitive data. You can break the hackers into several categories, but in the last decade (or possibly two), all they've felt compelled to hack were windows based o/s since a lot of things were on it. With the market gain and the fact that OS X is basically based on UNIX (and also the fact that if the trend encompasses companies, such as the US army, to decide to migrate to Mac Server), I'm sure hackers will follow the trend as well... wherever the sensitive information is, they should hack it?

That second article is plainly stupid. Add the cost of anti-virus, spyware, and cleanup by geek squad? Most enterprise version of anti-virus will have free lifetime updates anyways. Who keeps a PC for 6 years?

You could get that desktop that NFJ posted and get a new desktop in 3 years for the price that you pay for one mac.

You'd be surprised, but I do truly think that apple made a better product and it's worth to spend the extra money for it. However, it's not for EVERYONE. Mac is good, but is not GODLY-GOOD (that you MUST-CONVERT BECAUSE IT'S SO AWESOME) like you fanboys make it appear. It's a great product but doesn't come cheap.

I'd be the first one to convert everyone if we could buy OS X (actually OS IX was better I thought) and slap it on a PC.

I mean by all means tell your friend that he/she should buy that $2000 Macbook Pro because it's so SUPER-DUPER awesome and OS X RULES, so he/she can web browse, watch tv/videos, listen to music, and send email... do it. I'm not the one doing a disfavor to them.

And price-wise, hardware vs. hardware, if you actually did a little research, there is actually 1 item in the mac line up that is cheaper than it's pc counterpart... is the Mac Pro desktop.

I'm done debating this, even from the neutral standpoint of an owner of both pc and mac, it's hard to talk to walls.

Bottom line... IT DEPENDS ON YOUR BUDGET, NEEDS, and WANTS