The Boots and Shoes thread (w/ PICS) - Page 86

Btw. What do you do if the plastic/rubber is worn down? The rest cant be removed completely without damaging the soles, can it? So just glue another piece of plastic on top of the remainings of the last one? Sounds like ruining a pair of shoes...

^I always wondered about that as well. what's the point of paying more for leather soled boots, only to cover them with rubber? aren't they supposed to be better quality and last longer than rubber? never made much sense to me.


I'm so confused...

Sure!

You made good points with your development. Yes, why put rubber soles when leather soles are supposed to last super long? Good question...but you can take the question from another angle...why not?

We're talking about the sole here, nobody see it and it doesn't affect the shoe in any way and it protects it even if original soles are supposed to last.
Maybe rubber pads are supposed to go on low quality soles, on pairs where the sole gets worn out before the shoe itself.
It's always raging to throw a pair that still has life but has the sole all beaten to the point that is unwearable.

I had a pair of clarks that were like new on the top but I had to throw them because the sole was out :/ (it was a rubber sole)

Could you please repeat what sole those shoes had?

Sorry I cant follow you on that argument, as you neither grabbed up my points nor made any argument why there is an advantage having plastic glued onto your leather soles. No hate intended just trying to get this clear.

My opinion is set anyways, as I ruined a 350 Euro pair of shoes several years ago. Made that mistake once, never ever will again.

And imo. one can see those rubber things. Not when your standing, both feet on the ground. But by chance when your walking and for sure when your sitting.

new NDC boots @ yoox, and very decently priced as well:



thought about copping the first pair, but the cap toe stitching stopped me.

I noticed all the new season stuff at yoox is very cheaply priced, compared to previous seasons. like how all the new cp's are around $100. I think they're doing this to speed up the selling process, since they figured everything gets bought out faster once they go on sale, so they're listing all the new merchandise at the reduced prices you would usually see when they become past season. like how all the previous season NDC's were sitting there at around $400, but got insta-copped when they went on sale.

The second pair is cool too bad not my size.

I like the 1st pair. Great price. Might cop.

Damn Cez, you just come upon a large sum of money or somethin? hahaha

What do you think?
http://www.mltd.com/images/T/12-158.jpg
or
http://ns2.revolveclothing.com/image...RA-MZ30_V1.jpg
or
Cuban 1.5 - Multiview

None of them. And you might want to try the following thread for questions like this next time:

http://www.honestforum.com/top-tier-...5-yay-nay.html

lol, lets just say that boot cuts aren't dead and that I made a killing on eBay.


And this particular model of NDC are not new, that must be why Yoox is selling them so low. They must have come into some dead stock. I was drooling over these boots last year, but sold out before I was able to cop at a decent price, they were going for 500-600 retail at the time. This is a good price. Trust me. They aren't going to last long.


Gravity pope is selling them for $700+

N.d.c. Bishops-fnt Bishops at GravityPope

Sold out at Bow and Arrow

n.d.c. Bishops | Bows + Arrows

Sold out at ssense

N.D.C. MADE BY HAND - N.d.c. Bishops Couch Wash Boots | SSENSE

If that's the case, I've still got a pair of '03 Zathan 772 and Zathan 82M to sell!

btw

at Ssense

^^^yea but nothing at yoox is ever new, they only sell past season stuff at discount prices, then they further reduce the prices for special sales or once they become past-past season on their site. now they're just starting off at those prices.

anyways, those are sick boots, I would cop but I'm gonna hold out for some brown yorks.

and the one thing I don't like about laceless NDC boots is something sh0ebox pointed out when I posted my first pair of NDC's. the way the stitching is on the front and side of the leg opening area, creates a semi-circle shape around the hem of your pants.

Did anyone else cop those NDC's before they sold out?

Correction, you are missing logic.

Yes, I spend good money to buy high quality shoes.

Because leather soles are easy to replace via relasting, and traditionally, were a relatively durable material.

I've never once said that leather soles are inferior to rubber soles. I actually prefer leather soles myself. There are 3 reasons why I have a rubber 'topy' put on my shoes. They INCREASE THE LONGEVITY of your soles allowing you to avoid a costly relasting of your shoes, PROTECT your shoes from moisture (rain or snow) soaking up through the permeable leather sole, and GRIP the ground better than leather soles.

Also, the 'topy' soles can be removed and replaced with new ones by your cobbler once they start to wear down. But, even if they couldn't be replaced, the math still makes sense to have these put on. The rubber wears much slower than leather and you certainly could not get your shoes relasted for the price of putting the rubber on top of the leather soles. Plus, at the end of the day, the leather soles can be relasted with fresh leather soles, so who cares?

You should do some research before trying to lecture someone with that condescending tone of yours. You should know better.

Sure, the leather is treated, but the bottom line is that leather is a permeable material, and water is a universal solvent. Water will get through the bottom of your soles eventually.

If you don't believe me, go do a test for me. Fill your bath tub with about 1cm of water and put a pair of shoes in there (preferably one of your nice ones so I can laugh when they soaked) and let their 'hydrophobic' soles sit in the water for a few hours. Let me know what happens.


Thanks for the shoe care 101 lesson. That would be why I own numerous pairs of shoes and store them with cedar shoe trees in between wears. No amount of 'rest' days can undo the damage that water can potentially do to your shoes in just 1 day.

Good for you. Would you like a cookie? I don't consider 2 years to be that long in the grand scheme of things for a nice pair of shoes. Many of the shoes I have, I am planning on keeping for a lifetime.

First off, 'topy' soles are made of rubber, not plastic. Second, you probably never will. I'm not going to try to explain myself any more because I think I've made the advantages sufficiently clear here and it seems like convincing you otherwise is a lost cause.

fuuuuuck. decisions decisions!

I'm completely with gam on this topic. Five reasons for me to have rubber soles:

-) better grip
-) protection for soles
-) low costs compared to get them resoled
-) slight cushioning effect
-) lower noise when you walk on hard floor like wood (that's what I hate in my office...everyone hears me walking down the corridor)

be a man, hear the arguments then make your OWN decision

and tell it to us afterwards

I agree with gam29 100%.

I've had a couple of my shoes taken to a cobbler to get rubber soles (they're topy ) added so I can lengthen the life of them, as I do plan on keeping them for a long period of time. When a rubber sole is added to a pair of shoes, part of the original leather is sanded down a little so it can be replaced with the rubber, and then it will become flush with the rest of the sole. Once it wears out, it can be easily changed for a very reasonable price.

Rubber soles also helps you from slipping, either it would be from snow or rain. Leather just can't handle slippery surfaces, unless you want your skull to crack wide open when you fall.

The rubber soles on my shoes are barely visible. You just gotta find the right cobbler, which are not easy to find.

I wonder why?

^^it's hard mang. what gam says is logical, but ben has a point too. when it comes to looks, the rubber does ruin it a bit. and it still doesn't explain why the leather is there in the first place, why it needs to be protected if it's higher quality. maybe rubber soles are superior after all.


I believe what ben was trying to say, is that he ruined them by putting on the rubber soles.

Gam couldn't have had explained it better...

^ Come on man, who give a fuck how your sole looks like!! "hey mang, your soles definetely suck with those topy!!"
I know we are on a fashion forum and each detail count but come on!!

And maybe he ruined his 350€ pair because he went to a bad cobbler.

another problem(fuck...), if to do, how to know, where to go, to do?

^where are you located?