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post #51 of 134
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Originally Posted by A Clockwork Orange View Post
what does coke do. never understood the appeal.
Basically all of the above comments...

I just feel like super Annie when I'm on Tony. I'm extremely social and impulsive and certain inhibitions are thrown out the window. Your heart races and your mind is working on overdrive - I believe it's because your serotonin synapses are firing much quicker than normal.

(Bio students, please correct me.. I'm sure I've got part of that wrong)
post #52 of 134
so ur still like in control? like ur able to drive and stuff? SWIM cant drive on like weed or w/e
post #53 of 134
fncestudent ^ lol

Never done coke, never will, there were plenty of people who were doing it and tried to get me to do it when I went to the WMC in south beach some years ago.

I've done other stuff... but yes, I'd rather not get into details... they were fun back in the college days, haven't done much (if any) since.
post #54 of 134
not only can you drive and swim, but you will the possess the unique quality of annoying the shit out of people with you're incessent self-aggrandizing bullshit

coke is for losers
post #55 of 134
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Originally Posted by Malencontreux View Post
Isn't that a little harsh? If you're going to be that way for cocaine -- I'm going to assume you're that way for all other recreational drugs since to ignore a group of people for snorting cocaine and not people for smoking weed is a tad hypocritical.

And you should probably put me on ignore, since the last time I did coke was 3 Fridays ago.


No, I don't think its harsh OR hypocritical. I would never compare weed to coke either. Cocaine has no medical benefits and it ruins you. So put me on ignore and neg away....
post #56 of 134
so does anybody here roll?
post #57 of 134
I think there's a huge gulf between people who just do it and people who have spent the time to research the effects on the body. I'm in the latter category and I honestly spent hours upon hours trying to find out as much info as I could on the subject. My body is my temple and I'd like to know exactly what happens when I do xyz shit. I have no interest in arguing with people who have done zero research on the subject and make sweeping generalizations that coke will destroy your life and you will end up being a street whore to feed your addiction.
post #58 of 134
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Originally Posted by 2venus View Post
I think there's a huge gulf between people who just do it and people who have spent the time to research the effects on the body. I'm in the latter category and I honestly spent hours upon hours trying to find out as much info as I could on the subject. My body is my temple and I'd like to know exactly what happens when I do xyz shit. I have no interest in arguing with people who have done zero research on the subject and make sweeping generalizations that coke will destroy your life and you will end up being a street whore to feed your addiction.


Couldn't agree more.
post #59 of 134
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Originally Posted by ryanduke View Post
so does anybody here roll?
not now...

but back in the day i would have pleaded the fifth on this one

then i would have said...excuse me while i get my dance on
post #60 of 134
^

i think everyone needs to try it at least once if they don't try anything else.
post #61 of 134
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Originally Posted by maxim View Post
Funny how many 'socially conscious' people overlook La FARC, the main supplier of this product.
The AUC is just as dirty.

Dave - good thread, but I had to neg you for spelling Colombia wrong. Cocaine isn't made in South Carolina.
post #62 of 134
Very interesting video. Wouldn't call it a "factory" but it works I suppose. Im surprised these near primitive seeming people learned how to do something like this which is pretty complicated.

BTW, shouldn't a video detailing the creation of cocaine be illegal or something?
post #63 of 134
if i cant smoke it out of a hollowed out bic pen i dont bother
post #64 of 134
and although i havent wiki'd cocaine or checked out the hive since the 7th grade ive been around enough people on "cocaine" to know that if im going to spend $15 for 10 minutes its going to be on a handjob at ricks (strip club not a guy *honest*) not on baking soda cut with aspirin.
post #65 of 134
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Originally Posted by mgoeclipse View Post
Very interesting video. Wouldn't call it a "factory" but it works I suppose. Im surprised these near primitive seeming people learned how to do something like this which is pretty complicated.
Natives have been using it for a very long time. They are how everyone else learned of it. I took this of wiki which says claims has/had some medical uses. I am not a recreational drug user but if I was in serious pain and I had a few leaves laying around you can bet your ass I would chew em.

"Traditional medical uses of coca are foremost as a stimulant to overcome fatigue, hunger, and thirst. It is considered particularly effective against altitude sickness. It also is used as an anaesthetic to alleviate the pain of headache, rheumatism, wounds and sores, etc. Before stronger anaesthetics were available, it also was used for broken bones, childbirth, and during trephining operations on the skull. Because cocaine constricts blood vessels, the action of coca also serves to oppose bleeding, and coca seeds were used for nosebleeds. Indigenous use of coca has also been reported as a treatment for malaria, ulcers, asthma, to improve digestion, to guard against bowel laxity, as an aphrodisiac, and credited with improving longevity. Modern studies have supported a number of these medical applications."
post #66 of 134
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Originally Posted by ryanduke View Post
so does anybody here roll?
I never got much out of it on its own...

but hippyflip or candyflip, now we're talking!
post #67 of 134
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Originally Posted by A Clockwork Orange View Post
what does coke do. never understood the appeal.
The few times I did it all it did was make me jumpy and hyper. No real obvious cognitive effects whatsoever.
post #68 of 134
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Originally Posted by 2venus View Post
I think there's a huge gulf between people who just do it and people who have spent the time to research the effects on the body. I'm in the latter category and I honestly spent hours upon hours trying to find out as much info as I could on the subject. My body is my temple and I'd like to know exactly what happens when I do xyz shit. I have no interest in arguing with people who have done zero research on the subject and make sweeping generalizations that coke will destroy your life and you will end up being a street whore to feed your addiction.
Hahahah I've always been the same way. I would research the stuff extensively. I probably still have my MDMA test kit somewhere...
post #69 of 134
Cocaine is also a powerful topical analgesic. VERY close chemical analogs (lidocaine, benzocaine) are used in great quantities in consumer, over the counter pharmaceuticals (cepacol, fever blister gels, etc). In fact, my grandfather had a pharmacy near times square from about 1945 until the early 1990s, and when it finally was priced out of the space, we had to empty the place out. We found a huge bell jar in storage with some other stuff that probably had 2-3 pounds of "COCA" as it was labeled. So it was widely used in the past, and not just for the high...

In its original form (the coca plant) the stuff is pretty benign. In order to obtain the strength of the powder sold on the street, you have to go through some SERIOUS chemistry. It would be like comparing marijuana to pure delta-9-HTC (which is one of about 200 compounds unique to the cannabis plant)

Oh also I think it's worth mentioning how bizarre it is that people call crack "more pure" than cocaine. By definition it is LESS pure because you have to add a binding agent. This binding agent is the only inherent difference between crack and powder cocaine. The only difference in the high has to do with the method of administration: Snorting = slow, incomplete absorbtion, Smoking = nearly instantaneous, near-perfect absorbtion.
post #70 of 134
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the energy drink Cocaine. I bought a case of these before they were banned across the US.

They fought the government and somehow got the name back! They are as strong as 3.5 red bulls (they even say it on the can) and they actually numb your throat and make you cough.



If you want to order some:

Drink Cocaine Shop
post #71 of 134
I have "done" just about everything in my life. The only vice I never had is smoking cigarettes. I never understood the appeal..I never had a "problem" with substances. I controlled them. They never controlled me.

Some of the best times of my life occurred while under the influence of something. While it's true that I probably would have enjoyed myself without the "help", there is no doubt that the "help' helped.

Cocaine was everywhere in the '80s....particularly in the fashion industry. My showrooms had multiple daily deliveries. Salesmen used it as a tool....buyers expected it, models & photogs loved it. It was necessary prop

I never really enjoyed cocaine. It was never my substance of choice. I usually had some but rarely did it. I had it for others.

I don't do anything anymore. It wasn't a conscious choice to stop using. It was a gradual process.. I used because I enjoyed it. It was a positive experience, however, over time, I began not to enjoy it. It stopped being fun. I don't know if the change was a function of a changed mental state or a changed physical state. My body doesn't metabolize the stuff the way it used to.

I am bothered by the sweeping, generalized, absolute judgements made by some in this thread. Not everyone who indulges in stuff becomes an addicted, homeless, penniless waste of life. Many are able to control their recreational use and enjoy the experience without it becoming a detriment to their lives.

While I respect anyone's right to abstain, I have little tolerance for people who take the "holier than thou" attitude" and judge everyone who does choose to partake. Everything in life is relative and personal. Things may not be right for you. That doesn't mean they aren't right for others.

I didn't address the legal aspects of use because, in my opinion, it is a non issue for the purpose of this discussion. However, for the record,. I believe that alcohol is the most dangerous drug of all because it is legal and easily available while possessing the same ill effects of illegal substances.

I am not espousing the use of substances rather promoting freedom of personal choice.as long as that choice not not interfere with the lives of others
post #72 of 134
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Originally Posted by blm14 View Post
Hahahah I've always been the same way. I would research the stuff extensively. I probably still have my MDMA test kit somewhere...
Remember back in the day there was a website where you could send in e pills and the lab would publish results on the internet to show how pure a certain pill was? Pure MDMA is pretty safe as long as you preload and postload. I forget what you're supposed to take beforehand, but 5HTP, Prozac, or most types of SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) will help you recover considerably faster after rolling than not taking any supplement at all.







<-- Currently has 2 happy pills in the drawer that I'll likely never be able to use. I'd probably die if I used them.
post #73 of 134
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Originally Posted by sonicvoodoo View Post
While I respect anyone's right to abstain, I have little tolerance for people who take the "holier than thou" attitude" and judge everyone who does choose to partake. Everything in life is relative and personal. Things may not be right for you. That doesn't mean they aren't right for others.

I didn't address the legal aspects of use because, in my opinion, it is a non issue for the purpose of this discussion. However, for the record,. I believe that alcohol is the most dangerous drug of all because it is legal and easily available while possessing the same ill effects of illegal substances.

I am not espousing the use of substances rather promoting freedom of personal choice.as long as that choice not not interfere with the lives of others
Yay! I agree 100% with all of this. Also, to add to your alcohol mention - alcohol actually possesses far WORSE detrimental effects on the body than most other recreational substances.

I urge anyone reading this thread to go back and re-read John Stuart Mill's treatise "on libery"

Mill, John Stuart. 1869. On Liberty

In particular chapter 4. But I quote the introduction for ease of read:

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Originally Posted by my man, john stuart mill
The only part of the conduct of any one, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.
post #74 of 134
Wow, you guys are really open about your past/current use. Back in high school I did some stuff and suffered some pretty serious consequences. Since then some friends of mine continued and moved on to harder drugs and their lives unravelled and they're going nowhere in life. I'm not saying this is true of everyone who uses drugs, but this is my experience. My mom is a psychiatric nurse and has worked with adolescents and adults who have substance abuse problems for about 30 years. I've had lots of talks with her and decided to change my lifestyle which doesn't include drugs and now I only have a drink now or then.

I love music, especially edm. It started with Walter (Wendy) Carlos Switched on Bach records back in the 80s and exploded since then. I produce and dj and like a lot of us love to hear a song come alive on big club speakers. It pisses me off though when the focus of parties becomes getting fucked up. Some argue there can't be a club culture without drugs. I don't know. It makes me wonder though what is more important, the music or the high.
post #75 of 134
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Originally Posted by sultrysiren View Post
On the other hand if I owned a company I wouldn't want to pay health insurance on someone who smokes a pack a day. I can understand both sides of the issue.
Afaik smokers are the best "customers" for health insurance companies. They pay in for a very long time and then die pretty quickly.
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