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post #26 of 134
I'm not on drugs. Drugs are on me.
Quite recently a joint was institutionalised, after he had an attack of sweating and other withdrawal symptoms, because i wasn't at home for a few days...
post #27 of 134
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Admitting on a public forum that you do coke is probably not one of the better ideas you've had.
I have no issues with it, I'm not a regular user and I've admitted it before when there was another coke thread about some user finding coke in her roommate's purse... it was funny, because I think everyone in the thread for the most part admitted to using coke at one point or another, and attacked the user for going through someone else's belongings.
post #28 of 134
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I have no issues with it, I'm not a regular user and I've admitted it before when there was another coke thread about some user finding coke in her roommate's purse... it was funny, because I think everyone in the thread for the most part admitted to using coke at one point or another, and attacked the user for going through someone else's belongings.
Its your call. Just remember, its not that hard these days for your username to be linked back to you, and with more and more employers facebooking and researching their employees, you may want to think twice about it. I honestly could care less if you do coke or meth or LSD or not. Hopefully it won't happen but its possible that one day, either you or someone close to you will have an experience that will allow you to understand that using a drug like that, even once, can have life altering consequences.
post #29 of 134
^^A lot of companies won't hire people even if they are just smokers that smoke on their own time (Cigs).
post #30 of 134
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^^A lot of companies won't hire people even if they are just smokers that smoke on their own time (Cigs).
And just to add to that, companies are within their rights to do a drug test which includes hair samples that can date drug use back for a significant amount of time. Even one use will show up in such tests and bring up serious issues.
post #31 of 134
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Admitting on a public forum that you do coke is probably not one of the better ideas you've had.
If obama can admit to and raise $40 million the next month then I think you're safe
post #32 of 134
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^^A lot of companies won't hire people even if they are just smokers that smoke on their own time (Cigs).
Which is why I would never work for one of those companies.
post #33 of 134
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Which is why I would never work for one of those companies.
I don't agree with you very often but I don't like that shit either. On the other hand if I owned a company I wouldn't want to pay health insurance on someone who smokes a pack a day. I can understand both sides of the issue.
post #34 of 134
^^ blm, its a lot different when you're already a 40+ y/o senator running for president vs a 22 y/o trying to get a job at the local software firm. And while it would be great not to work for a large industrial company that has pages of laws and regulations and what not, unfortunately they are the largest employers of new graduates and often times the easiest to get jobs with when you have no experience.
post #35 of 134
Where is Tony Montana in this thread?
post #36 of 134
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Where is Tony Montana in this thread?



i think his face is still a little numb
post #37 of 134
Thank you.
post #38 of 134
I don't think 'less' of a person because they have done or do recreational drugs, but don't do it around me or have it affect me because i don't like the way most people act especially the few experiences i have had with people doing coke.

They thought they were all hot shit and they were just idiotic.

I have never even tried any of that shit and at this late date never will, but if someone does it on their own time, I can't do anything about it.

I also have never worked for 'the man' Didn't have too, because of all the money I saved never drinking and smoking and doing drugs I am a cheap date, my husband likes to say ..
post #39 of 134
If it's natural and non-addictive, it's okay in my books (in small dosages). I'm drug free though.
post #40 of 134
^^^^more money for the fancy pants
post #41 of 134
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^^ blm, its a lot different when you're already a 40+ y/o senator running for president vs a 22 y/o trying to get a job at the local software firm. And while it would be great not to work for a large industrial company that has pages of laws and regulations and what not, unfortunately they are the largest employers of new graduates and often times the easiest to get jobs with when you have no experience.
I turned down a job offer at ML when I was a senior in college because they wanted to give me a drug test. Not because I wouldn't have passed (I would have passed) but because I thought it was an unreasonable request.

I've been laid off three times in my life (2000 was NOT a good year to graduate with a comp sci degree in NYC), and I've also seen thousands and thousands of resumes (MBA admissions) and I can tell you right now that your attitude is a total cop-out. There are ALWAYS jobs to be had, even if they're not what you want or not making the green you want. If a company asks you to do a drug test you can turn them down and go do something that's may be less glamorous but lets you keep your dignity. This is even easier to justify as a 22 year old...

And if you're 40 then it's probably past history. And if you're still actively using and it doesn't get in the way of your job then what business is it of the company?
post #42 of 134
^ thats what really gets me begret... how the hell does anyone afford to buy a 10 (in canada) dollar pack of smokes everyday let alone an addiction that could cost you your entire life savings in just few months. ive seen that happen.
post #43 of 134
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I turned down a job offer at ML when I was a senior in college because they wanted to give me a drug test. Not because I wouldn't have passed (I would have passed) but because I thought it was an unreasonable request.

I've been laid off three times in my life (2000 was NOT a good year to graduate with a comp sci degree in NYC), and I've also seen thousands and thousands of resumes (MBA admissions) and I can tell you right now that your attitude is a total cop-out. There are ALWAYS jobs to be had, even if they're not what you want or not making the green you want. If a company asks you to do a drug test you can turn them down and go do something that's may be less glamorous but lets you keep your dignity. This is even easier to justify as a 22 year old...
Don't get me wrong, I've had a job for years. I have never even tried any illegal drug before, so I don't mind the drug testing, and I don't really mind being employed by a company that does it. But you have to understand, in todays world, you can't go for very long without a steady paycheck in the mail. Yes, some people are lucky enough to have the ability to turn down jobs in favor for others, but the simple fact of the matter is, most don't. Smaller companies, like the ones that don't drug test, are looking to higher people with greater experience so that they don't have to hire a greater selection of people. The majority of college graduates will receive perhaps 2-3 job offers from large companies, that they either did an intern ship with years ago or saw at a local job fair. I'm reasonably sure just about every school has their stats posted online. Take a look at even a school like MIT and you'll find that 90% of hires go to fortune 500 companies.
post #44 of 134
But not all F500 companies test. And even those that do, not all DEPARTMENTS do.

I'm not proposing that people live in poverty rather than take a job that drug tests them, that's irrational. But presumably if they have the financial wherewithal to FAIL a drug test then the lack of a job will not result in destitution.

Actually the recruiter for ML was very impressed that I turned down the job because of the test (although it pissed off career services something AWFUL). He and I have stayed in touch and he's thrown other job offers my way a couple of times...
post #45 of 134
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Originally Posted by LinuxChild View Post
^ thats what really gets me begret... how the hell does anyone afford to buy a 10 (in canada) dollar pack of smokes everyday let alone an addiction that could cost you your entire life savings in just few months. ive seen that happen.
Me too, it's such a waste of money to me. That's where some people become unrecognizable, doing anything and everything to support their habit. I think that's what bothers me the most.

Also, I am way older than most here , so I am seeing it from a far different vantage point.
post #46 of 134
The drug habit gets old fast....people become irritating and the older I am, the less patience I have for that.
post #47 of 134
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Where is Tony Montana in this thread?
We call it Tony here (GTA, Richmond Hill, Newmarket).

Frack that drug testing shiz. Based on principle, I would not want to work for a company whose mentality is that "drugs are baaaaaaaad." All I do now is drink wine and smoke the occasional joint, I haven't even touched Tony in several months (and probably never will). All the more reason why I'm content to work for a company for a few years and then start my own business.
post #48 of 134
what does coke do. never understood the appeal.
post #49 of 134
It's just another kind of high. I personally don't like to smoke anything. I really wouldn't suggest doing coke (or any drug -- yes I'm being hypocritcal) 'cause coke is a little more dangerous than weed, not to mention coming down off of it is not the greatest feeling (but it's nothing drastic like how you see in the movies unless you're a cokewhore... it's more like a "oh fuck, there goes my buzz" for me), especially if it was cut with laxatives LOL.
post #50 of 134
it makes people monumentally one-demensional and shout I AM FU*KING GREAT LOOK HOW GREAT I AM I HAVE A GUN DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY GREAT GUN
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