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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....sort=3&rows=50

Seller has loads of jeans on sale.. all seem very good prices.. Feedback seems very good..

but check this out:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=3934345 949

They look fake to me, I've asked him for photos of microstitching on another pair im looking to buy so im waiting on a reply, will be interesting to see..
post #2 of 29
Thread Starter 
Update.. the guy emailed to say they are 100% authentic and he'll even refund shipping cost if i can prove them to be otherwise.. sounds like i cant loose there, i think im gonna order some and see...
post #3 of 29
i've been watching this seller for a while, it seems that he sells authentics, although i have never taken the plunge to find out. all his pictures look real, except for that one that he uses when for the 772 zathans.

another seller i always watch is "dieselofmiami". all their jeans seem to be authentic, at least the jeans int he pictures are. i want to get some, but his prices are pretty low, especially for brand new models and washes. it justs stumps me how they can do that. i would definitely go for it if i could make sure they were 100% authentic.
post #4 of 29
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gospastic
i've been watching this seller for a while, it seems that he sells authentics, although i have never taken the plunge to find out. all his pictures look real, except for that one that he uses when for the 772 zathans.

another seller i always watch is "dieselofmiami". all their jeans seem to be authentic, at least the jeans int he pictures are. i want to get some, but his prices are pretty low, especially for brand new models and washes. it justs stumps me how they can do that. i would definitely go for it if i could make sure they were 100% authentic.
Yeah i've seen the other seller.. I can believe they are selling some for $150 or so, anything less though seems suspect, but im sure some of the designs wouldnt even have been faked (Zathan 82H for example, for about £55 BIN) so i do wonder??
post #5 of 29
The jeans in the second link are definitely fake. I bought some that looked exactly like it from an ebay seller named DenimKingdom. Luckily he gave me a refund. From the pictures it's hard to tell, but once you hold fake Diesels it takes about a second to realize they're not real. They feel cheap and even smell cheap!
post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
Got them today, and they are 100% genuine, I guess the seller must have either made a mistake with his zathan or he's got some fakes in with the rest of them?
post #7 of 29
DenimKingdom is most def fake. A friend bought a pair off him for me for a gift, for $50, and well nice, were obviously fake and not up to the same quality Diesel uses for their denim.
post #8 of 29
For the 1st link: They're all real (he gives a refund for good reason). For all of the new designs like zathan 82H, you can be assured that they're real. Since they're still new, the Thai Market hasn't produced fakes for them YET.
post #9 of 29
How much is an average price for Diesel jeans wholesale anyway?? Does anyone know?? Thanks!
post #10 of 29
I have been trying to figure that info out as well.

I believe that for the Diesel jeans that I sell the stores purchase them in huge lots from diesel for $55 a piece.
My vendor gets them for $65 a piece.
He sells them to me for $75 a piece.

Anytime I see zathans for $50 I have to wonder how the guy is getting his jeans for less than what I believe the stores are getting their jeans for.

Hope this helps.

Rock on.

Dave Craige
www.honestdave.com
post #11 of 29
Thanks. That helps a lot. Also, I've been wondering about other name brands. For example. I am currently working with a supplier of 7 jeans. Now there are 3 people I am looking at working with:

The Swarkoski Crystal Jeans I can get for $90/100 & $100/50
The Havana I can get for $78/25 $75/50 $90/50 $95/20 (Remember these are all from different suppliers)
On the A Pockets I have been told $58/25 $53/100
Diesel are also in the $70-$80 range when buying 50 I think.

Now I have 1 supplier who I am awaiting a sample for the cystal jeans. However, I was told by another person he would sell me max 10 for $70/pc. I know everyone is out there to make a dollar. But I wonder what authorized dealers are selling these jeans to stores for. Anyone have any tips??

Also, I heard Joey Jeans, Yanuk, COH, Blue Cult are in the $65-$85 range too. Anyone have any insight? Any info would be helpful. Thanks!
post #12 of 29
I really dont think so. 100% cotton Stretch? What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...keTra ck=true
post #13 of 29
I really dont know what to make of that seller, but I can tell you my story. They guy that runs italian depots name is fausto martinez, he also had a store on ebay under the name jeansoutlet. When I had a friend bid on a pair of jeans for me on jeansoutlet he had a rating of 99% or somethign like that. Well a week went by, then two weeks, so after 3 weeks my friend started to email him to see where the jeans were. They made weak attempts to email back, and you could tell they didnt speak english very well. So my friend got pretty mad that they wouldnt send them out and this guy Fausto calls him and tells him not to worry that he will ship them out within the week. Well that was back on may 18th and still no jeans. I tried to get a refund through paypal, and they said they cant do anything after a month is up. So feel free to take a look at the ratings of jeansoutlet ratings now, and see how many people he ripped off. P.S. if anyone has this guys address, phone number or anything that could help me either get my jeans or a refund, please email me or leave a msg in this topic. Thanks.
post #14 of 29

Suspect Seller

Hi,
I recently bought a pair of Seven for all Mankind jeans from ebay seller rationalfashion. They have a pretty good feedback rating, and have sold over 2000 Diesel and SFAM jeans. My jeans came in a poly bag and I have heard that this is a dead giveaway of a fake. Does anybody have any thoughts?

P.S. Keep up the good work Dave! You are awesome. I swear, if I weren't married I'd snatch you up. A cute single boy like you who knows his jeans, what more could a woman want
post #15 of 29
I got fake fake fake diesels from OKPowerTRADER. Price was about 70 and the quality was crap, denim was shotty, one of the buttons fell off. Their feedback is good, but I looked thoroughly and my experience with them is not unique; Problem is people don't know the difference. Thank god for sites like this.
post #16 of 29
Hi,

I'm intersting in this Diesel Jeans but I want to be sure it's an authentic product !
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...e=STRK:MEWA:IT
So please, give me your own opinion
thanks
post #17 of 29

Re: Suspect Seller

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Originally Posted by pryncessqt
Hi,
I recently bought a pair of Seven for all Mankind jeans from ebay seller rationalfashion. They have a pretty good feedback rating, and have sold over 2000 Diesel and SFAM jeans. My jeans came in a poly bag and I have heard that this is a dead giveaway of a fake. Does anybody have any thoughts?

P.S. Keep up the good work Dave! You are awesome. I swear, if I weren't married I'd snatch you up. A cute single boy like you who knows his jeans, what more could a woman want
Rationalfashion sells fake jeans. They even have their own website selling fakes, as if that makes them more legit
post #18 of 29
I am also certain maddyrayne on ebay sells fake sevens.
post #19 of 29

Thanks Pure

Pure,
May I ask why you think the rationalfashion jeans are fake? I am always curious to learn more about how to spot a fake. Thanks for your help. Also, if anyone else has any info on ebayer rationalfashion please let me know. They have sold way too many "fake" items to be getting away with it. Apparently, they do offer refunds though if you can prove they are fakes. Thanks again!
post #20 of 29
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

do u guys know if jerrytyler sells fakes.. he gives like the best return policy i have seen.. what do u think ?
post #21 of 29

Re: Thanks Pure

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryncessqt
Pure,
May I ask why you think the rationalfashion jeans are fake? I am always curious to learn more about how to spot a fake. Thanks for your help. Also, if anyone else has any info on ebayer rationalfashion please let me know. They have sold way too many "fake" items to be getting away with it. Apparently, they do offer refunds though if you can prove they are fakes. Thanks again!
They sell fake SFAM, I'm not too sure about the Diesels and Joe's jeans because I have never owned them and therefore unfamiliar with them. I know they are fake Sevens because my friend bought from them and they are terrible fakes. I mean, you can tell just from the picture, the wash, fading, and color is all wrong. I guess once you've seen and worn the real thing, they are very easy to spot.
post #22 of 29
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Originally Posted by ThisRoundsOnMe
I really dont think so. 100% cotton Stretch? What do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...keTra ck=true
Yep, this is the way how to spot fake Citizens of Humanity jeans - they all say "Ingrid stretch" on the blue lable, but the material tag says "100% cotton" in a way wrong font. The original font is a lot smaller and less broad. Beware of those jeans - they all have the cut-nr. 679, by the way.

Best regards, Bianca
post #23 of 29

Re: Thanks Pure

Quote:
Originally Posted by pryncessqt
Pure,
I am always curious to learn more about how to spot a fake.
Hi!

Please check out my website www.no-fake-jeans.de.vu . I know the text is in German and you probably won't be able to understand it, but you'll see lots of pictures of authentic and fake pairs. There are so many different fakes out there, it's very hard to spot them all ... My webpage is not at all complete, but I'm trying to keep up with the fake industry.

Best regards, Bianca
post #24 of 29
Quote:
pryncessqt wrote:

Pure,
May I ask why you think the rationalfashion jeans are fake? I am always curious to learn more about how to spot a fake. Thanks for your help. Also, if anyone else has any info on ebayer rationalfashion please let me know.
I bought a pair of jeans from rationalfashion. They are 100% FAKE! Mine didn't come in a plastic bag, but after comparing them to my other 4 pairs of real jeans, I can definately tell you what the differences are. The 7 for all mankind tags on the pocket and by the belt loop are the wrong color. They are a much darker than the real ones. The colors aren't noticeably different unless you put them beside a real pair of jeans. Also, the size of the tags are different. The Style # and Cut # are stitched not stamped, and the tag says MADE IN CHINA. Also, the care information on the tag says MACHINE WASH WARM, while the care information on the inside pocket says, WASH IN COLD. The rivets on the jeans from Rationalfashion are silver, not copper like they should be. Also, the material feels very thin on the fakes and when you put them on, they feel very uncomfortable, not at all like real 7 For All Mankind jeans. The stitching above the pocket is not quite parallel, but not slanted enough either and it doesn't stretch with the rest of the jeans so you have this line that looks funny when you put the jeans on. Also, I tried to email rationalfashions with my concerns and they haven't returned my emails, so I don't know if he will actually refund the money or not. Hope this helps!

Ginger
post #25 of 29

Same

I have heard the same about rationalfashion.
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