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post #51 of 89
^(spastic_koala)
thing is, not 'everyone else' is doing it....i spent all day saturday in SanFrancisco (arguably a very fashion forward city), shopping in the union square area, and saw exactly 3 pair of nudies - 2 of which were on SAs in stores. dry denim is an extremely limited market as far as trends go, and nudies are far, far less recognizable by branding than most other denim companies.

of course, nudies are probably the MOST recognizable dry denim brand there is. that's ok, because as i already said to you most of the members of this forum are into brands for their specific traits. it logically follows then, that they would want a relatively recognizable brand for their venture into dry denim. does this sound unreasonable?

spastic koala, care to elaborate on you own personal nudie experience? i for instance, am very happy with mine. i have also tried/am working on APC, NDG, Flathead, 5ep, IronHeart, PBJ, Imperial, DenimJunkie, and soon Dior. and so far i am most disappointed with the APC - the top button feels loose after 2 wears and there's a very long thread coming out of one of the pocket linings...either way, nobody has argued with me that nudie ISN'T in the top tier of denim quality overall...can someone provide some insight into this?

and again, you rant that brand whoring is a 'pathetic' thing, yet you treat 'exclusivity' as something worth persuing....don't you see that these are basically the same thing? i mean, is there any diference between suburban kids spending their money and time on brands everyone knows and urban hipsters doing the same on brands nobody knows?

also, and just because it's a personal pet peeve, it's 'per se', latin, meaning 'by itself'.
post #52 of 89
I got mixed reactions on the quality when I wanted to get some academi for cheap so I backed off for the time being.
post #53 of 89
are Nudies Sanforized?
post #54 of 89
Thread Starter 
^^

Yes, all of them are to my knowledge
post #55 of 89
enough talk about nudies. i need to start up a april 77 movement in this forum. asap.
post #56 of 89
^ actually talk about ANYTHING else would be fine haha
poor nudies (misunderstood)
post #57 of 89
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Originally Posted by CUTUP View Post
Not hugged enough as a child, hugged too much?
Why do you have to get pissed off about almost everything that people ask on here, or inquire about?

I asked why people didnt like Nudie because I just made a purchase, and I was worried about quality issues, but I had not heard of any quality issues with Nudie before, unless people sized down too much on their pairs.

TR is known for quality problems with their denim, that is what I was asking about here as I am still unfamiler withh all of Nudies cuts and washes

If almost everything you read on here offends you in some way, dont read it and save yourself the heart attack
First of all, my comment was not directed to you personally, but the myriad of people all posting the same comments and giving each other the reach around.

Second, TR is not known for quality problems. It is known for gaudy jeans. This is the reason people insult TRs, not because they fall apart.

Third, the personal insults don't offend me, but just reflect what kind of person you are. Also, god forbid someone have a view opposing what the general consensus of the mob.
post #58 of 89
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa View Post
First of all, my comment was not directed to you personally, but the myriad of people all posting the same comments and giving each other the reach around.

Second, TR is not known for quality problems. It is known for gaudy jeans. This is the reason people insult TRs, not because they fall apart.

Third, the personal insults don't offend me, but just reflect what kind of person you are. Also, god forbid someone have a view opposing what the general consensus of the mob.
3 of my freinds own TRs, and the denim rips very very easily ( 2 out of 3 tore up their pairs within months), I have never had a pair of my Diesels rip so easily.

What was said wasnt meant to be an insult, but a statement.

You have a wealth of knowledge about denim and the like, but mostly you sound like your just being pissed off/crass in one way or another.

And give up the " people are anrgy because I went against the mob". People are angry because you have a tendancy of entering into discussions with an immidiate attitude.

There are better ways to voice your opinion then by saying fuck a couple of times, and throwing in a brand that had nothing to do with this discussion.

You have lots of knowledge, and could be an even greater help to people here if you just chilled out a bit
post #59 of 89
Well the point about the TRs is that on this forum when people insult TR it is about the looks of them, not the quality the vast majority of the time.

You can call it a statement all you want, but your intentions were obviously to insult me. I'm not talking about the last sentence, but rather the first. Point taken about me being crass, but I'd take crass over passive aggressive.

The discussion was about hating on a brand. I brought up another brand that gets "hated" on constantly on this forum, but it seems it is alright just because it is TR. I was just proving the double standard that exists. The point being, why is it not okay to insult Nudie, but it is fine to insult this other brand (there are more brands other than TR that fit this description)? And the point of that was, let people voice their opinions, and don't make a big deal out of it.

Your OP was clearly not the base of this. It was all the other people claiming the people that don't like Nudie are just "pretentious fucks" (which you +1ed by the way). If you wanted to ask this question, it is fine. The answer from Koala was definitely what you should have been looking for. I would have said Sigmatic, but he started off on that pretentious/sheep thing.
post #60 of 89
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*plus my KTM Duke has that colour lettering on the tank

+5 for references of both jeans and motorbikes in one post
post #61 of 89
Breaking apart your post to make responding to each part easier.

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Originally Posted by Sigmatic View Post
^(spastic_koala)
thing is, not 'everyone else' is doing it....i spent all day saturday in SanFrancisco (arguably a very fashion forward city), shopping in the union square area, and saw exactly 3 pair of nudies - 2 of which were on SAs in stores. dry denim is an extremely limited market as far as trends go, and nudies are far, far less recognizable by branding than most other denim companies.
I thought we're talking about the world of dry denim. No doubt that Nudies are considerably less known to the general public. But this is not the case for people who are aware of and into dry denim (as you mention below).

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Originally Posted by Sigmatic View Post
of course, nudies are probably the MOST recognizable dry denim brand there is. that's ok, because as i already said to you most of the members of this forum are into brands for their specific traits. it logically follows then, that they would want a relatively recognizable brand for their venture into dry denim. does this sound unreasonable?
I suppose I can accept that, but I don't understand the appeal. I don't understand why it is good to jump to the popularized brand without exploring other unique and possibly better options. If you conclude Nudie is best for you after doing this research, then great. But if you conclude that Nudie is best because popular culture dictates that it's the "cool" and "in" brand of dry denim, then not so great. Then you're just sheep.

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Originally Posted by Sigmatic View Post
spastic koala, care to elaborate on you own personal nudie experience? i for instance, am very happy with mine. i have also tried/am working on APC, NDG, Flathead, 5ep, IronHeart, PBJ, Imperial, DenimJunkie, and soon Dior. and so far i am most disappointed with the APC - the top button feels loose after 2 wears and there's a very long thread coming out of one of the pocket linings...either way, nobody has argued with me that nudie ISN'T in the top tier of denim quality overall...can someone provide some insight into this?
Sure. I had a pair of Nudie Slim Jims that I went true to size with. After about 2.5 months I had a crotch and seat blowout while doing some wall climbing. It was unfortunate. APCs always stretch like mad and that's why people tend to go around 2 sizes down. If you didn't do so that might be why the top button and/or waist feels loose. That's a lot of dry denim to be working on simultaneously. Unless you're not into developing fades and such (which is okay if you're not) then I'd recommend focusing on a few pairs at a time. Isn't the "evolution" part of the appeal of dry denim? When you're cycling through 10 pairs, you lose that. And for your last statement...unless I'm misunderstanding you what you're asking...I'll happily state that Nudie isn't the top tier of denim quality.

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Originally Posted by Sigmatic View Post
and again, you rant that brand whoring is a 'pathetic' thing, yet you treat 'exclusivity' as something worth persuing....don't you see that these are basically the same thing? i mean, is there any diference between suburban kids spending their money and time on brands everyone knows and urban hipsters doing the same on brands nobody knows?
The brand whoring I'm speaking of is when you choose an item because of the brand name and not because of the quality. The whoring is when you sacrifice quality in order to have an easily recognizable item that you can show off. What's pathetic is when 90% of the money paying is for the brand name on the ass and the little stitching on the pockets. These companies know that they can throw out relative junk and charge lots of money for it because they know that people will pay gobs of money just for the name. In my humble opinion most of the brands that are popular on this board fall under this category. But this is where I differ in what I feel is important. A recognizable brand is not important to me, while quality, construction, etc. is. While I can understand where a recognizable brand may be important enough to others where they are willing to lose the quality aspect. To each their own.

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also, and just because it's a personal pet peeve, it's 'per se', latin, meaning 'by itself'.
Thanks for the grammar correction. I missed that.
post #62 of 89
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa View Post
Well the point about the TRs is that on this forum when people insult TR it is about the looks of them, not the quality the vast majority of the time.

You can call it a statement all you want, but your intentions were obviously to insult me. I'm not talking about the last sentence, but rather the first. Point taken about me being crass, but I'd take crass over passive aggressive.

The discussion was about hating on a brand. I brought up another brand that gets "hated" on constantly on this forum, but it seems it is alright just because it is TR. I was just proving the double standard that exists. The point being, why is it not okay to insult Nudie, but it is fine to insult this other brand (there are more brands other than TR that fit this description)? And the point of that was, let people voice their opinions, and don't make a big deal out of it.

Your OP was clearly not the base of this. It was all the other people claiming the people that don't like Nudie are just "pretentious fucks" (which you +1ed by the way). If you wanted to ask this question, it is fine. The answer from Koala was definitely what you should have been looking for. I would have said Sigmatic, but he started off on that pretentious/sheep thing.
My intention was to throw some humor in there, as well as make a point afterwards

True, I dont mind people voicing there opinions at all. If you dont like TR because you find them cheesy, then thats a perfectly valid reason. I started this thread because there seemd to be no reasons, just retoric. If someone doesnt like the back pockets, or the way they fit I am more then willing to accept that.

But not if someone just hates on them because others hate on them. Everyones allowed to voice there opinions, but if its doen in a rude way, or without facts, 9 times out of 10 they will be called on it.

I gladly plussed that statement, Anthony was not saying all people who hate on nudie are pretentious, just most of them. And considering that many of the posts I read on another unamed site where just that, trash talking with nothing to back it up, that sounds pretty pretentious to me.

We just have to agree to disagree I guess

OT.. SpasticKoala, nice points and a good read ^

Man this thread has gone way off track interesting to read though
post #63 of 89
spastic_koala you've made some really great points, plus i love that your name has koala in it! Makes me want to snuggle a koala bear *snuggle*

post #64 of 89
^^^cute!

The guys, you got to love them.Fun reading.
In the end they are just jeans and you have two choices. You either like them or you don't.


Thanks dave, for noticing my reference.
post #65 of 89
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The guys, you got to love them

We are just trying to add a few extra inches to our e-penis's
post #66 of 89
^^^Carry on, then.
post #67 of 89
My e-penis is koala sized. Wait...that's probably not a good thing.

I'm sleepy, I should take a nap.
post #68 of 89
^ awww (yuck to the penis part) but you look snuggle-able!!!!!
post #69 of 89
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Originally Posted by spastic_koala View Post

Sure. I had a pair of Nudie Slim Jims that I went true to size with. After about 2.5 months I had a crotch and seat blowout while doing some wall climbing. It was unfortunate.
i find that hard to believe, considering that in early feb. 2008 you posted this on SuFu:

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Thanks! +rep
I have mixed feelings about Nudies and am leaning towards the APCs. I figure APCs might be a better introduction until I feel ready and confident enough to move on to bigger and better things.
post #70 of 89
Better intro to selvedge. I'm still learning too. I was a lurker on sufu for about a year before I ever started posting. Just reading and learning.

I'm flattered by the stalking, though.
post #71 of 89
i'd stalk you too now that i know you're a cuddly koala
post #72 of 89
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The brand whoring I'm speaking of is when you choose an item because of the brand name and not because of the quality. The whoring is when you sacrifice quality in order to have an easily recognizable item that you can show off. What's pathetic is when 90% of the money paying is for the brand name on the ass and the little stitching on the pockets. These companies know that they can throw out relative junk and charge lots of money for it because they know that people will pay gobs of money just for the name. In my humble opinion most of the brands that are popular on this board fall under this category. But this is where I differ in what I feel is important. A recognizable brand is not important to me, while quality, construction, etc. is. While I can understand where a recognizable brand may be important enough to others where they are willing to lose the quality aspect. To each their own.
Brand whoring has always been around and will always be around. The vast majority of people wear their clothing to show off exclusive/expensive labels. It's never been about quality to the masses. Quality wouldn't keep brands in business and besides, with high quality nobody would have an excuse to keep buying new jeans... as everyone here so enjoys doing... all the time (so much so they put themselves on 'jean bans'...)
post #73 of 89
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
Brand whoring has always been around and will always be around. The vast majority of people wear their clothing to show off exclusive/expensive labels. It's never been about quality to the masses. Quality wouldn't keep brands in business and besides, with high quality nobody would have an excuse to keep buying new jeans... as everyone here so enjoys doing... all the time (so much so they put themselves on 'jean bans'...)
I agree with you a million percent. Branding is just plain good business. And yes, the majority of the people do want people to know that they spent X amount of money on Y brand. Does it make it right? Probably not. But it's understandable that people like to show off and like the attention. Deep down everyone craves attention and you achieve that with the more popularized brands even if they don't have great quality. I can see how all this can be addicting too. Heck, even following these more obscure brands that make higher quality denim at lower production rates has a high level of addictiveness.

I don't expect there to be any change to this brand whoring model as it provides the fashion industry with tons and tons of money.
post #74 of 89
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
tsukasa is no worse than many of the other members here, no reason to call him out whatsoever.
funny coming from you.
post #75 of 89
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Originally Posted by CUTUP View Post
I gladly plussed that statement, Anthony was not saying all people who hate on nudie are pretentious, just most of them. And considering that many of the posts I read on another unamed site where just that, trash talking with nothing to back it up, that sounds pretty pretentious to me.
My point was, and why I bolded the word "fuck" was because you were complaining about me using the word and being crass or whatever, then someone else uses it, which happens to coincide with your own opinion and you +1 it.

All that aside, who other than jskidder and possibly DieselEmployee are going around bad mouthing Nudies? Are you referring to people on SuFu? Maybe some people are following the bandwagon, but others most likely stopped purchasing Nudies for all the reasons koala has listed. And the people on the bandwagons, well who cares what they say. Everyone gets hyped up or down by someone for something. Not everyone is a leader in everything.

Personally I know myself 2 years ago to now has changed a lot in my product knowledge and preferences. There is nothing wrong with this.
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