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Hating on Nudie?

post #1 of 89
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Whats with people ( mostly purists) hating on Nudie so much?

Is it the fit, or just the fact that Nudie is more mainstream?

I quite liked the minimalist look of their raws, and snagged a pair, as well as a pair of raw Black label Levis.

Im not trying to start an argument, just looking for some opinions as to why?

Samurai, Flathead, Nom De Guerre and the like seem to be much more highly regarded,( which I quite like) and I know that is due mainly to exclusivity.

Is the quality on these brands that much better then Nudies?
post #2 of 89
Quality on those other ones is much better, but its mostly pretentious fucks being pretentious fucks. Beyond our world of interweb deimizzz nudie sits fairly high up, and other, much more exclusive brands simply return blank stares.
post #3 of 89
i dont think u wear nudies to achieve "the minimalist look"
i think their back pockets are tacky. also another reason why i dont wear thanaz w/ ass dragons or just diesel in general. i do wear ddgs though.

i dont really care that nudies are becoming mainstream or w.e. i think that just sounds pretentious like anthony said. however it def may be one of the reasons as to why ppl dont like it that much. but i mean they have a whole website devoted to nudie jeans so i dont think its hated THAT much.

i cant speak for the quality because i havent had one long enough to make such claims but the general consensus is that they rip easily at the crotch.
post #4 of 89
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Originally Posted by A Clockwork Orange View Post
i dont think u wear nudies to achieve "the minimalist look"
i think their back pockets are tacky. also another reason why i dont wear thanaz w/ ass dragons or just diesel in general. i do wear ddgs though.

i dont really care that nudies are becoming mainstream or w.e. i think that just sounds pretentious like anthony said. however it def may be one of the reasons as to why ppl dont like it that much. but i mean they have a whole website devoted to nudie jeans so i dont think its hated THAT much.

i cant speak for the quality because i havent had one long enough to make such claims but the general consensus is that they rip easily at the crotch.
I find that many of the people who hate on nudies, dont seem to have a good reason except for " everyones got them", and thats pretty pretentious. Some members on a certain website talked nonstop about loving nudies, and then trashed them a year later when they became better known ( I did a post search myself)

They are pretty damn minimalist, aside from other brands that have no back pocket stitching at all. If you find the pocket design tacky though I understand, too each their own

And personally I wouldnt be comparing the basic stitched pockets of nudies to the " ass creatures" that Diesel carries. They are not even close to each other in the least in terms of overdoing the back pocket design.
post #5 of 89
I think Nudies are awesome looking. But I am also not into crazy back pockets. I think it looks tacky and reminds me of ravers...

post #6 of 89
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Originally Posted by A Clockwork Orange View Post
i dont think u wear nudies to achieve "the minimalist look"
i think their back pockets are tacky. also another reason why i dont wear thanaz w/ ass dragons or just diesel in general. i do wear ddgs though.

i dont really care that nudies are becoming mainstream or w.e. i think that just sounds pretentious like anthony said. however it def may be one of the reasons as to why ppl dont like it that much. but i mean they have a whole website devoted to nudie jeans so i dont think its hated THAT much.

i cant speak for the quality because i havent had one long enough to make such claims but the general consensus is that they rip easily at the crotch.
i have nudies w/ dark blue back pockets so u cant see that BRIGHT orange logo!
post #7 of 89
I own and used to be into nudies, but realize now that they are not my style.. They are marketed to be kinda for the immature, silly guy. Just look at the website, it's ridiculous. The music sucks, some guy gets electrocuted. It's all in poor taste.

They are like the 'pac-sun or TR' brand of Dry denim labels. Dry denim minimalists don't appreciate the 'tacky' back pockets and I have mixed feelings about them myself.

The fact that they have become mainstream is definitely a reason for people hating them. Others will argue that they are of poor quality unless you shell out for the RRDS (which are grossly overpriced.)

I'm surprised the woman who started nudies didn't make denimbirds first and then go on to making mens denim. Like paige denim.
post #8 of 89
the people hating on nudies are the same people that pride themselves on "discovering" new bands and quickly abandoning any trend, band, or company that "makes it big"
post #9 of 89
I tend to agree with you chhs.
post #10 of 89
I think the reasons they get hated on are as follows:

1. The orange stitching
2. They aren't made in Japan
3. They also make jeans that are pre-distressed.
post #11 of 89
the orange stitching is annoying i like that mine dont have that back pocket it's MUCH nicer and the waist tag is easily covered by a longer shirt... and i dunno at least for girls there aren't as many options for raw jeans as there are for men... i still like my nudies
post #12 of 89
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Originally Posted by chhs View Post
the people hating on nudies are the same people that pride themselves on "discovering" new bands and quickly abandoning any trend, band, or company that "makes it big"
Very well put, I feel exactly the same way ^

While I dont like Nudies pre-distressed jeans, I snagged a pair of RRDS, and I am looking at getting another dry pair with black stitching on the pockets. I just dont find their stitching that overly offensive.

Thanks for everyones input
post #13 of 89
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Originally Posted by chhs View Post
the people hating on nudies are the same people that pride themselves on "discovering" new bands and quickly abandoning any trend, band, or company that "makes it big"
^^^
This happened to me with Diesel as I have been wearing it since about 1986. I LOVE the fact that there are 'others' who love Diesel now.
That's how I came to HF.

As for Nudies I love mine because they fit me really well, and I actually wear that marigold colour sometimes.* I am not beholden to Nudie, it's what I have now. When they wear out I'll try something else!




*plus my KTM Duke has that colour lettering on the tank
post #14 of 89
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Originally Posted by AntMoney14 View Post
I think the reasons they get hated on are as follows:

1. The orange stitching
2. They aren't made in Japan
3. They also make jeans that are pre-distressed.
wait are we talking about Dior or Nudies?
post #15 of 89
begret, I can see the Appeal of Diesel today but what was great about them in '86? All I remember about '86 was duck hunt.
post #16 of 89
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
I own and used to be into nudies, but realize now that they are not my style.. They are marketed to be kinda for the immature, silly guy. Just look at the website, it's ridiculous. The music sucks, some guy gets electrocuted. It's all in poor taste.
How is it poor in taste? it is portraying the stereotypical people who wear this kind of jeans, if you look at the majority of the people who post there stuff on sufu, you'll see that most of them are laid back "immature" guys. Honestly, wearing the same jeans for 6 months without washing doesnt sound like "good taste" for majority of the world...

also, how can you criticize the music that portrays this style of life? or would you rather have some classical music or even pop music playing?

honestly, you are criticizing the brand for the wrong reasons, because this portrays the stereotypical "denim lover"...

i don't own nudies because i find the back pockets tacky, but criticizing it for their marketing strategy is stupid...

they are targeted at different people and clearly, it wasnt targeted at you
post #17 of 89
btw, the music on the gallery section are insane, those riffs reminds me of jimi hendrix + led zepplin
post #18 of 89
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
wait are we talking about Dior or Nudies?
???
Dior mij are made in japan

so not all dior are not made in japan
post #19 of 89
I don't think so, I'm sure you have seen official sites like APC and PBJ? They are very clean. I don't agree that denim lovers are stereotypically immature or laid back guys. It's obvious N&F denim is trying to rip on nudies style.
post #20 of 89
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Originally Posted by Nova View Post
???
Dior mij are made in japan

so not all dior are not made in japan
do you have a point? Nudies have models made in Japan as well.
post #21 of 89
Do you have to reply to ever single post i make with a ridiculous and unnecessary rude attitude?
post #22 of 89
bottom line: there is nothing wrong with nudies in any way. most people that say they suck are ignorant sheep who heard they suck from someone else and just regurgitate what they heard without question. ask any of them to qualify their opinions and you'll hear a bunch of subjective hearsay bullshit. these people couldn't tell you why they suck, they couldn't tell you anything about the denim, construction, or hardware quality - instead they say nudies suck because they're heavily marketed to a certain demographic and the web designers have different taste in music. of couse, that doesn't stop them from eating at mcdonalds even though they market primarily to the african american and uneducated single mother demographics...

quality wise they are in the top 5% of all denim worldwide. they have choices in color, wash, fit, and fabric for days. i have a pair of rrds i've worn 3-4 days a week for 8 months (no wash) with no problems at all. none. to be perfectly honest, that's WAY more performance than i could reasonably expect from the vast majority of other denims. my brother has purchased about $1200 worth of premium denim in the last year and i saw all of them this weekend - with the exception of his koffha 784s, they were faded, ripped, torn, hem-chewed, stained, all that. i have one pair of nudies i've worn as much as he's worn 5 and the nudies are in much better shape.

they're priced too high? well, when's the last time you bought a pair of premium denim at full retail? if you haven't noticed, nudie is right in line with ALL of the other premium denim labels. i'd argue that nudie is MORE versatile than most brands because they also have a wide range of price points, from $150 - $500 or so.

you don't like the back pockets? fine. but go to nordstrom and take a good long look at all the back pockets from the other high end denim mfgrs... nudie is quite subtle comparitavely and to be honest, back pocket stitching is a time-honored branding tradition in denim that's not going anywhere, ever. if you're the average citizen, how else would you know what brand someone's wearing without asking them?

crotch blowouts all the time? i seem to remember that his was happening only to seriously downsized svens and i haven't heard about this happening for quite some time. not saying that it never happens, but really, most of us are desk jockies or retail slaves and don't wear jeans that hard anyway. ALL jeans have crotch blowouts if you stress them enough. every. single. brand.

so really, anyone with a valid complaint about nudies please come forward with either an educated and non-biases opinion, or some real evidence to back up your reasoning.

we're waiting...
post #23 of 89
^ bravo!
post #24 of 89
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
begret, I can see the Appeal of Diesel today but what was great about them in '86? All I remember about '86 was duck hunt.
My point exactly. No one knew what the hell they were. I am glad that diesel became popular here in the US.

I got them free from a fellow mtn.bike racer who brought them from Italy. The 'euro fit' has always fit me well. Even when diesel females in 1989 came out, I would still default to the men's stuff.

Anyway, the point is for me, I don't care if someone does or doesn't know what 'brand' of something I'm wearing or riding or...



Oh, to add about the crotch blowout thing, I ride a motorcycle in mine, not a just sitting there bike, a supermoto style hard cornering type bike..a LOT of sliding around on the seat.. and I wear them to the lab where I work a lot.. or in the field where I may have to climb a stack and do lots of manual bending and lifting. They have held up almost too well!

Sigmatic, that was well written
post #25 of 89
Thread Starter 
Sigmatic, you hit the nail square on the head

It just pisses me off when people hate things because a group hates things, the whole hive mentality and " I hate those because everyone here hates those" is childish and in my opinion, idiotic

When someone cant retort with a honest answer as to why they hate/dislike a particular brand, its fairly obvious they are solely following the crowd

I can understand not everyone may love the fit, or the pockets ect, it just kills me when the quality of an item is high, yet because the brand gets well known, it is now considered trash.

I read replies from people that made Nudies sound like they were made on a loom by God himself, as soon as others began to wear them, they acted like they wouldnt be caught dead in a pair
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