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post #76 of 195
3/20/08 at 7:05pm
^^^^ just for the record dior homme is a separate small store....so no gowns, no dresses, no skirts etc..just a few leather jackets, few jeans, shoes and like 3 suits
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post #77 of 195
3/20/08 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by sonicvoodoo View Post
*EDIT* guess i should've mentioned that they didn't know where the jeans were made either..had to check the tag
how else would you tell? they don't have prices on the tags and without knowing the retail price the only way to know the origin is to read the inside garment tag. since they look identical i'm sure it is not uncommon for the mij to get mixed up with the mii in their stock so i would rather them look to make sure.
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post #78 of 195
3/20/08 at 7:19pm
^^^ James you can't be serious....I didn't pick up a pair of jeans and ask them where they were made....I asked them if the 19cm jeans they had were MIJ..they didn't know..if you are selling $340 jeans and didn't know where they ere made..you should be fired.....simple

*EDIT* they only had 1 price point
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post #79 of 195
3/20/08 at 7:28pm
So wait, in the Dior Boutique they sell both the MII and the MIJs?

does it say "Made in Japan" in the MIJ's?
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post #80 of 195
3/20/08 at 7:32pm
Run your queries by the store manager. I'm sure he'll fire them for you. I'm sure they'll have no trouble finding new, educated, denim specialists to work for them.

There was an advert on monster recently for bloomingdales seeking 'denim expert.' The job description said NOTHING about knowing denim except for knowledge of various brands. Most questions were about dealing with customers, asking how you deal with stress and workplace drama. But seriously, nothing about denim, not one question.
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post #81 of 195
3/20/08 at 8:15pm
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Originally Posted by StrongerThanAll View Post
So wait, in the Dior Boutique they sell both the MII and the MIJs?

does it say "Made in Japan" in the MIJ's?
Yes, it should say on the inner tags.
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post #82 of 195
3/20/08 at 10:48pm
Thank you sonic, for proving you are such a know-it-all customer who has nothing better to do than "test" the employees over stupid things.
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post #83 of 195
3/21/08 at 12:15am
^ yeah I normally wouldn't care about this argument but once in a while I have some weirdo-dieselfanboy coming in and talking to me about denim. They would ask me questions I clearly wouldn't know the answer to. Most of it's probably not even true... Then after about 6 visits and a bunch of long useless conversations which seem condescending, he comes in and asks a random girl to ring him up just to spite me....erm.

I would hate nothing more than knowing/seeing those guys posting on a forum about what kind of 'unqualified/noob' SA I am and laughing about it. Considering I try hard to be a good SA (relatively good..)
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post #84 of 195
3/21/08 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa View Post
Thank you sonic, for proving you are such a know-it-all customer who has nothing better to do than "test" the employees over stupid things.

and thanks for living up to your well earned rep...

asking the amount of shrinkage in a $340 pair if RAW jeans is stupid huh?

asking where the same pair of $340 jeans was made is stupid...superfluous info right?
the raw jeans are not on display in the NYC dior store....you need to specifically ask for them and the SAs have to go downstairs to get them....they have no idea what sizes are available (understandable) until they look......asking where the jeans were made would have saved the SA a trip downstairs if he answered Italy.....but, again, he was clueless

tell ya what Tsukasa, next time I walk into your store, don't wait on me.........and don't earn the commission.....

@DieselEmployee:I've been in sales my whole (long) life. I need not be lectured about the prerequisites of the makings of a good salesman..especially by a part time jean salesman

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post #85 of 195
3/21/08 at 10:43am
Tsukasa you work at a clothing store? What kind of commission does Dior pay 3%?

I agree voodoo you are a lot older and have a lot more sales experience and I'm not just saying that. I learn a lot from your posts in the past because they are always very insightful.

So I'm surprised to see you are so peeved by some SA asking questions you already know answers to when you can just come here and ask them

When I was a teenager I worked at Best Buy selling TV's. I didn't know much more about $3500 DLP's (nor do they teach you) over a $350 HDTV vs. a 19" $75 SDTV.. It was about selling 'superior quality and name brand' much like selling jeans is about and if anyone thinks that's a stupid analogy, whatever, I can relate.

Sales could be a great profession (wholesale, floor sales, ebay, etc) but something I only see myself doing in between doing other work that I'm really interested in.
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post #86 of 195
3/21/08 at 11:05am
Well obviously if they knew every aspect of every garment in the store, they might be a better salesperson. Maybe you were the first person to ever ask those questions. Maybe that is why the salesperson was clueless. So if one person is asking these question out of all their customers, why is this vital information they need to know to be a great sales associate? I am assuming that any customer outside of a denim forum member doesn't care or know that some of the Dior jeans are made in Italy and some are made in Japan and what are the differences. Asking the amount of shrinkage is not a dumb question, but asking if they were sanforized/unsanforized is kind of bordering it outside of 45rpm or BiG. If this was information they needed to know, they would have been trained appropriately, wouldn't they?

I would expect the typical customer knowing the difference between MIJ and MII would go into the store and ask them for the 19/21cm raw blue/black made specifically in Japan/Italy. How difficult is that?
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post #87 of 195
3/21/08 at 1:30pm
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Originally Posted by Tsukasa View Post
Well obviously if they knew every aspect of every garment in the store, they might be a better salesperson. Maybe you were the first person to ever ask those questions. Maybe that is why the salesperson was clueless. So if one person is asking these question out of all their customers, why is this vital information they need to know to be a great sales associate? I am assuming that any customer outside of a denim forum member doesn't care or know that some of the Dior jeans are made in Italy and some are made in Japan and what are the differences. Asking the amount of shrinkage is not a dumb question, but asking if they were sanforized/unsanforized is kind of bordering it outside of 45rpm or BiG. If this was information they needed to know, they would have been trained appropriately, wouldn't they?

I would expect the typical customer knowing the difference between MIJ and MII would go into the store and ask them for the 19/21cm raw blue/black made specifically in Japan/Italy. How difficult is that?
oh man....i don't know why i bother and i know i'm bein' a real dick for perpetuating this discussion/debate but.........

the average customer wouldn't be able to purchase the raw jeans because they weren't on display....ya hadda ask for them....the inquisition about sanforization was done in the same line of questionning about shrinkage.....and lastly....it was easy to ask for MIJ jeans but.how da fuck could the SA specifically give me a a pair of 19cms that were made in Japan if he had no fuckin' idea where the jeans were made.....he had to check the tag which is kinda the reason this whole shit started

I really hope I have the willpower not to post in this thread again
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post #88 of 195
3/21/08 at 3:11pm
yeah and all this really matters in life right?

jeez fucking get over it. people have different opinions. thats it. bye.
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post #89 of 195
3/21/08 at 5:23pm
The first place I would look for where the product is made would be on the tag. As jskidde already mentioned, how else would you expect to know where it is made? I would think the scenario would pan out as you asking for 19cm black raws made in Japan. He would get out his/her only 19cm black raw model and check the tag to see if it was in fact made in Japan then that would be that. I don't understand what the big deal is about that. I don't think you are going to convince me or anyone else here who already doesn't agree with you what the big deal is.

And no, you are not being a dick. I think the dick part was asking if they were sanforized and then probably being all condescending (assuming since you were "testing" them) when they had no idea what you were talking about. This is a discussion board. I would refrain from arguing on a tangent, but it isn't like the original topic still needs discussing.
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post #90 of 195
3/22/08 at 3:59am
ok so did anyone get these cause i wanna see some damn pics and less arguing.



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post #91 of 195
3/22/08 at 9:33am
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ok so did anyone get these cause i wanna see some damn pics and less arguing.
Mine shipped out this morning from Ohio. I'm in upstate NY, so I should have them in a few days.
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post #92 of 195
3/22/08 at 11:23am
Just ordered a 30W... they better have them in stock because the last (and only) time I ordered from Bluefly, I got an e-mail a few days later saying the item I ordered was no longer in stock.

Got expedited shipping so should have them by Wednesday I'm hoping.

Edit: AFF10 coupon worked for me also this morning

Edit2: D'oh! Forgot to use mrrebates... coulda got almost $15 back... oh wellz
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post #93 of 195
3/22/08 at 3:46pm
Damn George I can't wait to see them! I'm so jealous I almost wish I were a guy so I could have my own pair
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post #94 of 195
3/22/08 at 3:56pm
^ you have issues if you wish you were a guy just to wear a pair of jeans.


Ri0tp00f, what is aff10, is that 10% off?
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post #95 of 195
3/22/08 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post

Ri0tp00f, what is aff10, is that 10% off?
Yes
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post #96 of 195
3/22/08 at 4:52pm
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
^ you have issues if you wish you were a guy just to wear a pair of jeans.


Ri0tp00f, what is aff10, is that 10% off?
coming from the know-it-all HFLite member
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post #97 of 195
3/22/08 at 5:28pm
what does being a 'lite' member have to do with anything?

Members like you are the reason I will not purchase a membership.
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post #98 of 195
3/22/08 at 5:29pm
does aff10 work with all clearance items or sales?
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post #99 of 195
3/22/08 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
what does being a 'lite' member have to do with anything?

Members like you are the reason I will not purchase a membership.
just chill out...you get so worked up over dumb stuff that has absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic...stay on point please and i think everyone will be greatful.

that code does work on anything on bluefly.
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post #100 of 195
3/22/08 at 6:55pm
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Originally Posted by DieselEmployee View Post
does aff10 work with all clearance items or sales?
the code works on everything but you have to be a first time user at bluefly (i tried using the code, but it didn't work for me since I've bought from them before).
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