Yoox has a FAKE diesel!!! - Page 2

I'm pretty sure yoox doesn't carry fakes.

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Originally Posted by TravisD 

I'm pretty sure yoox doesn't carry fakes.

Look at the date :D

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Originally Posted by Quettingen 

Look at the date :D

Yes, one thing which does appear to have changed since then is the fact that Diesel seems to outsource its web development to Yoox and there's probably a direct supply chain of past season jeans from maker to outlet. If you look through various brands you'll see that Diesel is one of the only ones to include model names with the products, which I'm guessing has to do with the relationship between the two companies.

In fact, Yoox even has current season stuff; the Koolter 880g was recently added and they actually appear to have more sizes available than the Diesel website!

In spite of my above reply, these, however, may be fake:

http://www.yoox.com/us/42258433HN/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=42258433HN&sizeId=6 

They look like Kratt, or something that even predated Kratt. However, a few things seem off to me:

1. Diesel almost never uses a zip fly, which these supposedly have.

2. If those are the Kratt, or one of its predecessors, then they'd have the double "V" back pocket stitching, not the red "D".

3. It wasn't until later, as far as I know, that Diesel started using the top button with the "hole" in the middle, vs. a completely covered button.

4. If you look at the back of the waistband on a pair of genuine Diesels from that era, you'll see stitching about two inches on either side of the center belt loop from where the interior waistband tag was sewn in. This pair doesn't have that, while the genuine pairs below (as well as the pairs of Kulter and Fanker that Yoox has) do.

Compare them to these, which appear to be about the same age, but have the details I typically associate with Diesels of that time period:

http://www.yoox.com/us/42257739FS/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=42257739FS&sizeId=10

However perhaps someone can identify them definitively as genuine based on the pic/description...

Also, compare these (look fake):

http://www.yoox.com/us/42258603RG/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=42258603RG&sizeId=5

to these (look real):

http://www.yoox.com/us/42256956BH/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=42256956BH&sizeId=

These are also highly suspect (though Yoox doesn't have a nearly identical pair of genuine ones for comparison):

http://www.yoox.com/us/42258417CX/item?dept=men#sts=sr_men80&cod10=42258417CX&sizeId=

In addition to the characteristics mentioned above (other than the stitching for the inside tag, which is there) look at the stitching at the top corners of the back pockets. Usually it's straight across and appears very well reinforced, whereas this stitching is thinner and diagonal. 

Lol! They look weird

Yes, they look weird because all of them are very old. But I doubt they are fake... Also the fact, official diesel online store is a part of yoox group, I don't think they are selling fakes. Period...

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Originally Posted by zdenal_cz 

Yes, they look weird because all of them are very old. But I doubt they are fake... Also the fact, official diesel online store is a part of yoox group, I don't think they are selling fakes. Period...

I'd have said the same, but when you look at some of the nearly identical pairs, with detailing off, it does make you wonder...

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Originally Posted by Phukette 

They are just old models. Timmen has single belt loops and so do some Darron and I've seen that coin pocket design before. That coin pocket is on one cut of ladies jeans. So no, it's not fake.

Which are you referring to? The ones I linked to look like rip offs of old Kratt and Kulter models.

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Originally Posted by Phukette 

There's nothing on those links that leads me to think they're fake. All of the inconsistencies you've pointed out can be explained. Diesel sometimes had plain back pockets like these, ladies jeans still have this in some models, lots of cuts have/had zip flies. Either way, we've all used yoox repeatedly over the years and they don't sell fakes!

I'd say agree to disagree on this one. One thing I'll emphatically say, however, is that I don't believe Yoox would ever knowingly sell fakes. However these are so old that they clearly aren't closeouts sourced directly from Diesel and given Yoox's business model they undoubtedly deal with a very wide variety of vendors not directly affiliated with a manufacturer or distributor (such as liquidators, stores, catalogues, etc.). It's actually pretty easy to imagine a scenario where not all of them are completely on the up-and-up, unbeknownst to Yoox. I used to find fake Diesels and 7s at Filene's Basement in Boston (the old school one that was actually beneath Filene's) which I'm sure were represented as genuine to the FB buyer. 

Part of me actually wants to write to them, not to accuse them of trying to pawn fakes off on people, but so that they can check and know whether they themselves are receiving authentic goods from all of their suppliers.

Oh, and one more thing on the grey pair: in addition to the pockets, notice that the stitching on the back of the waistband holding the inside tag in place is covered on one side by the leather patch, which isn't the case on the two pairs I linked to that I considered legit.