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post #1 of 21
1/30/08 at 11:27am
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I bought my first pair of raw denim jeans in November, they are black Earnest Sewn bootcut jeans. I haven't been wearing them that much, maybe 3 days a week, so while they are developing whiskering and honeycombing, it's not nearly as stark as I want it to be.

However, there are already two little holes coming in at the crotch, and I can see/feel that a whole big section of the denim is thinning dangerously!

If you're supposed to wear dry jeans every day for at least 6 months before washing them in order to get the most out of them, how come mine are holey after 3 months of only moderate wear? Does earnest sewn just make crappy raw denim?

I wanted to get a pair of raw blue Nudies to work in all summer, but now I'm having second thoughts because this pair is going to fall apart before it looks half decent, and I feel like it was just a huge waste of time and money. Your thoughts would be appreciated.
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post #2 of 21
1/30/08 at 12:00pm
crotch holes are pretty common with raw denim, just repair them and keep going. 3 months of moderate wear seems a little soon to be developing holes, but i doubt earnest sewn makes the most durable denim.

as far as a summer-long project that you are going to wear hard, i would avoid nudie unless you want to deal with a lot of repairs. nudie is know for poor quality and frequent blowouts. if durability is an issue go with some nice japanese jeans, those should hold up to some serious amounts of pounding before you would need to do reapirs. samurai, iron heart, flathead, or sugarcane would be good choices because from what i have seen they tend to hold up the best.

if you want info and examples of how to repair crotch holes, refer to this thread. its really easy and if you don't want to do it yourself any tailor or dry cleaner can do it for you for really cheap:

Denim Repair Thread - superfuture :: supertalk
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post #3 of 21
2/5/08 at 11:54pm
Why don't you get some levi's? They never fall apart, and they are classics!
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post #4 of 21
2/6/08 at 12:14am
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Originally Posted by plastic_alligator View Post
Why don't you get some levi's? They never fall apart, and they are classics!
are you talking about RAW levi's?

Raw denim wears out at the crotch because of all the friction that goes along with owning such stiff denim.
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post #5 of 21
2/6/08 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by plastic_alligator View Post
Why don't you get some levi's? They never fall apart, and they are classics!
joking right?
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post #6 of 21
2/6/08 at 7:22am
I've never had crotch wear problems but I also dont wear super skinny cuts. I think if you wear them a bit looser and less sagged you wont get as much crotch wear. You can also reenforce from the inside or do repairs too.
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post #7 of 21
2/6/08 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by blm14 View Post
I've never had crotch wear problems but I also dont wear super skinny cuts. I think if you wear them a bit looser and less sagged you wont get as much crotch wear. You can also reenforce from the inside or do repairs too.
how do you reinforce the inside?
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post #8 of 21
2/6/08 at 10:50am
^you can reinforce with denim patches iron on or you can get fabric glue... i'm not sure of any other ways though but i'm sure there probably are some more ways to reinforce your denim!
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post #9 of 21
2/6/08 at 1:56pm
washing also helps prevent holes
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post #10 of 21
2/6/08 at 3:57pm
yeah washing surely helps, what if you spray water on the crotch area a few times, will it soften/help?
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post #11 of 21
2/6/08 at 4:54pm
Washing helps because it removes all the dirt and junk that causes abrasion within the fabric when there is friction.
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post #12 of 21
2/6/08 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by crotchfades View Post
joking right?
No actually, I'm not joking. Why would I joke about that? There is a reason that levi's are still being made over 150 years of being manufactured. They seriously last forever. My fiance's grandfather was a construction framer and he wore his Levi's ALL THE TIME and they only wore in the knees. He had them for about 20 years of being worn CONSISTENTLY and they are STILL wearable.

My fiance also does construction work renovating old homes in our area and he wore a pair of Seven flynts to work every day. (needless to say I was pissed he was wearing nice jeans to work...) but they got holes in the crotch and the knees after about 4 months. They look BADASS because they are all super faded and whiskered and have paint splattered on them. If they weren't so damn big on me I would wear them. I guess I could have them altered. Anyways, my point is, if you want really durable denim, go get some levi's. I love premium denim, don't get me wrong, but they just don't last...you would think they would if you're paying hundreds of dollars for them...but unfortunately they don't...
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post #13 of 21
2/6/08 at 9:34pm
The levis you buy today are, on the whole, nowhere near the quality of construction that your fiance's grandfather owned. They're made of much lower quality denim in places like mexico and china. The old levis were all raw and shrink-to-fit and made in the US out of very durable material. They were made as work clothes that could REALLY take a beating. 99% of modern levis are nowhere near as durable.
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post #14 of 21
2/6/08 at 9:37pm
you're not paying for quality you are paying for name brand and style mainly. The same people who make $300 Andy warhol levi's make the $20 cheapo pairs as well.
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post #15 of 21
2/6/08 at 9:42pm


Good ol' fashion levis.
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post #16 of 21
2/6/08 at 11:36pm
Well, it figures they don't make levi's the same anymore...oh well.
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post #17 of 21
2/6/08 at 11:57pm
they don't make anything the same anymore. What's the point in selling you jeans that will last you '20 years'... Doesn't exactly promote spending.
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post #18 of 21
2/7/08 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by Hedonist View Post


Good ol' fashion levis.
hahah frankie muniz
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post #19 of 21
2/7/08 at 7:12am
the only way to get good old fashioned levis is to buy sugarcanes. or LVC.
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post #20 of 21
2/7/08 at 9:25am
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Originally Posted by blm14 View Post
hahah frankie muniz
that's Deuces Wild. It's a movie about 1950's Brooklyn turf wars. The guy next to him, Brad Renfro, died recently at age 25 of OD.
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post #21 of 21
2/13/08 at 11:03pm
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Originally Posted by cheapmuthafukr View Post
the only way to get good old fashioned levis is to buy sugarcanes. or LVC.
I own a pair of 1947 LVC and these are not wearing out anytime soon. Never understood the allure of Sugracanes though. A quality issue? Why go with a repro when you can get it straight from the source.
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