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post #1 of 32
1/17/08 at 1:49pm
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how are these jeans?
cheap monday 666's
UrbanOutfitters.com > Cheap Monday 666

i think they're pretty cheap for raw jeans. i was wondering how these fit also. should i buy something a bit bigger than my normal size? i heard they shrink a bit when u wash em for the first time.
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post #2 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:12pm
-cheap mondays are known for their affordable, super slim fits
-the quality of construction is not very high, so while you are still getting raw selvage, don't expect any amazing fades to form. Yes, they will still conform to your body and you'll get a customized fit, but don't expect to see the amazing contrast you'd get w/ a high quality jap repro like samurai, skull, or dior.
-chances are stitching will come undone and you might get some holes in the denim after a few months of hard wear.

With all that, they are still a great deal for the price. You can't find any other decent raw selvage in that price range. They have a nice fit, and supposedly are quite comfortable. It's a good raw denim starter if you're looking to see what it's all about.
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post #3 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:17pm
they fit TTS, but will stretch BIG TIME w/ wear, so I'd suggest sizing down one w/ that cut (yea sounds crazy sizing down on cheap mondays). But that cut isn't part of their super slim fit line. After a wash they will shrink down quite a bit... pretty sure those are unsanforized.
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post #4 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:33pm
you would want to soak those before you wear them to get the shrinkage out. otherwise your fades will be all fucked up after the first wash and they will no longer fit. unless you are buying from a place like selfedge or blue in green that provides very detailed pre and post-soak measurements, its real hard to purchase unsanforized denim online. you need to try them on and get a slightly-too-big fit pre-soak, and then soak them so that they shrink to fit before wearing...
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post #5 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:36pm
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alright. i'm also hoping they look better in person. lol they dont look athat nice in the pic.
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post #6 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:38pm
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or i just wont buy them haha. but so if i were to buy raw jeans i should get it slightly too big?
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post #7 of 32
1/17/08 at 2:55pm
there is no rule of thumb for sizing. It depends on the brand, cut, sanforized vs unsanforized, etc. What you want is the true measurements of whatever jeans you are buying. The true waist, leg opening, thigh, rise, etc. Know your own measurements as well. Most quality raw denim retailers will have that information for you.
Also, like was said earlier, if they are unsanforized (not preshrunk), expect to lose at least an inch on the waist when you wash them. Unsanforized denim should be soaked before you wear them, that way you shrink them down ahead of time so you won't have uneven fades when you eventually wash them. Also, the denim will stretch with wear. It sounds like a lot, but your best bet is to try on what you want to buy in person, or do some online research before you buy.
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post #8 of 32
1/17/08 at 3:13pm
best bet is to buy from Self Edge is Denim or Blue in Green and refer to the post-wash/soak measurements provided there. imo those are the only 2 worthy online retailers of raw denim.
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post #9 of 32
1/18/08 at 3:02pm
I highly recommend both of the sites listed above, amazing customer service and lots of useful info

Cheap mondays are however, a good starter pair if you are not sure about how into the whole raw process you are going to be, however, I would not recommend an unsanforized pair as your first raws...they are hard to fit and w/o trying them on first it is even harder, plus you wont know how they fit until after you pre-soak and then wear for a while...

If you want a good starter I say get a pair of good society's, they are cheap and have a nice wieght to them. Not going to get as amazing fades as some of the higher end stuff like Skulls, PBJ or Dior but, they are something to consider...
Be sure to check the measurements on GS (on context) they run big...
GOOD SOCIETY Straight Leg Jean in Synthetic Indigo at Revolve Clothing - Free Shipping!

Good Society Straight - CONTEXT CLOTHING - Free Shipping
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post #10 of 32
1/20/08 at 5:19pm
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sigh none are my size. im a 28.
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post #11 of 32
1/20/08 at 5:22pm
why don't you give these a shot?
Academi Denim Relaxed Straight Dry Indigo Selvage - CONTEXT CLOTHING - Free Shipping
still relatively cheap, 14 oz jap selvage. Chances are you'd get nice contrast w/ these too, better than you'd get w/ cheap mondays. I'm not familiar w/ the brand, but context carries good stuff, and from the looks of this one it's a great deal for the price.
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post #12 of 32
1/25/08 at 12:57am
Hisma--

how would you recommend sizing for the Good Society Academi Straight Denim?

Are those unwashed/raw selvage? I can't seem to find anything anywhere that says so/otherwise
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post #13 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:06pm
it's a relaxed fit, so you should do fine going with what it advises in sizing down 1 from your true waist. They will be a big snug at first in the waist, but will definately stretch out over time. Soak em before you start to wear them.
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post #14 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:10pm
Thanks Hisma

What kind of soak? just cold?
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post #15 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:13pm
don't soak them, they are sanforized.
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post #16 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:15pm
Thanks JSK--

so they are preshrunk already? does that mean they will still stretch with wear?
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post #17 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:19pm
ahh I saw no indication that they were sanforized. Well in that case, just wear em as is. Thx Jskidder
Yea they will still stretch with wear. You can soak them over time if they start to stretch too much on you.
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post #18 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:23pm
thanks everyone for the kind help! will be heading out to pick some of these up soon.
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post #19 of 32
1/25/08 at 5:25pm
sweet dude. Post pics when u get them, I'm curious to see how these fit.
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post #20 of 32
1/28/08 at 11:49am
hey I got them, and will post pics soon, but here's a question--
(don't mean to thread jack)

should I hem/alter the length of my GAP selvages? I thought they would shrink with a hot soak, but they didn't (were these sanforized as well?). I got a 32 and usually wear 30 (short, I know), and these feel like 34s (I'm not a huge fan of the cuffing)!

any suggestions would be great.
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post #21 of 32
1/28/08 at 6:02pm
offbad, I dont know about the GAP jeans...

But I have a question about your cheap mondays. Could you measure the leg opening for me?
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post #22 of 32
1/28/08 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by Hisma View Post
Also, like was said earlier, if they are unsanforized (not preshrunk), expect to lose at least an inch on the waist when you wash them.
Maybe it's because I wear such a large size compared to most, but I havent found WAIST shrinkage to be that much of an issue. I buy my unsanforized jeans so that I can just BARELY button them raw and then wear them during the initial (HOT!) soak of maybe 15 mins and even with machine washes after that if the waist shrinks it stretches back out within about 1 hour of wearing.
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post #23 of 32
1/28/08 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by jskidder View Post
best bet is to buy from Self Edge is Denim or Blue in Green and refer to the post-wash/soak measurements provided there. imo those are the only 2 worthy online retailers of raw denim.
One caveat about their measurements: You're better off with using the ones on the japanese websites. I've never seen either website go over increments of .5inches of accuracy and some of the japanese websites go to tenths of a centimeter, so generally you'll get more accurate measurements that way. The key is checking if the measurements are pre-soak or post (if they're raw) because sometimes they do one and sometimes the other.
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post #24 of 32
1/28/08 at 8:37pm
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But I have a question about your cheap mondays. Could you measure the leg opening for me?
Hey sorry to disappoint but I got the Good Society ones, not the Cheap Mondays.
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post #25 of 32
1/29/08 at 12:35am
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Originally Posted by offbad View Post
hey I got them, and will post pics soon, but here's a question--
(don't mean to thread jack)

should I hem/alter the length of my GAP selvages? I thought they would shrink with a hot soak, but they didn't (were these sanforized as well?). I got a 32 and usually wear 30 (short, I know), and these feel like 34s (I'm not a huge fan of the cuffing)!

any suggestions would be great.
almost 100% sure gap raws are sanforized.
Anyway, stacking vs cuffing vs hemming is completely a matter of personal aesthetics, but here is my take on it.
If it is a slim fit w/ a tapered or straight leg (basically a small leg opening), stacking looks better. If it is anything else, cuff. However, if you aren't into that look or the inseam is so long the cuff would look ridiculous, don't hesitate to hem to get the "perfect fit". Just be very mindful of where you get selvage denim hemmed. Selvage is chain stitched at the leg opening which requires a special machine... so if you take it to a standard tailor chances are they will not be able to properly hem them. They'll suffice, but it won't be a proper hem.
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