Ended up copping the second pair. I wanted to get the first pair that I posted but decided against it because the zipper being on the wrong side + the absence of any stitching detail makes it look too plain. I hope the pair I got will settle with wear instead of the leather looking bunched up like that, because without that look, I'm pretty sure it looks just like the first pair but with more details. I'm also not sure as to what the real color of them will be. They don't look ink black and but it's hard to tell because of ssense weird images.