When I first got them they were damn rigid and had pronounced whisker folds on the lap. Seriously, felt like they could stand on their own...and talk about tight as hell at the waist. I usually wear a 30, but these felt like a 29.
They are a lot softer after four days of wear especially around the lap. The whisker fold seemed to be getting a bit of "white tips" on my second day of wear, but now they are flattening out and just look like random striations on the lap

(has anyone else experienced this?) I was hoping they were going to rip a bit and pull some 713 action and maintain the 3D whiskers, but they're just flattening out as the denim seems to be too thick...hopefully this isn't it...