i returned them because of the rise. on the slims in my size it was really tiny, barely even 8 inches. the denim is really incredible and i hear it produces nice fades. it requires a bit more effort than some other japanese stuff like pbj and skull i think, though. not sure about a comparison to dior since i haven't seen the somet in person. personally i think the best slim fit straights in a nice raw denim are flathead f310, slull 5010xx, and pbj xx-005, 007, and 008...