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post #1 of 53
9/30/05 at 8:52am
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I bought a pair of True Religion from ioffer.com that are supposedly authentic. I noticed a few different styles on the back outside tag as I was searching pictures for authenticity. The original hanging tag was from 2004....On my back pocket it says #503 after "SECTION" instead of Joey. Did they make them like this? Would the real ones say Joey?
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post #2 of 53
9/30/05 at 8:56am
the older ones have a number instead of the name
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post #3 of 53
9/30/05 at 8:58am
ok, i just read it again and noticed you bought them on ioffer...99.9% of the stuff on there is fake! which seller did you buy them from?
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post #4 of 53
9/30/05 at 8:58am
levis threatened to sue (notice that 503 is REALLY similar to 501?)
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post #5 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:11am
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here is the link

http://www.ioffer.com/wholeStory.do?...&buyer=kodimck
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post #6 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:13am
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That is the link above from ioffer where I bought them
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post #7 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:22am
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Well if that rude reply was aimed toward me - thanks a lot. The 32 was for a friend and the 30's ended up being huge on me because someone told me that they ran small. And the whole reason I got on this forum was because I wanted to sell them on eBay but weren't sure if they were authentic.
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post #8 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:34am
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Originally Posted by paula312
Well if that rude reply was aimed toward me - thanks a lot. The 32 was for a friend and the 30's ended up being huge on me because someone told me that they ran small. And the whole reason I got on this forum was because I wanted to sell them on eBay but weren't sure if they were authentic.
Huh? What rude reply... I was just telling you why TR started using names instead of numbers
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post #9 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:36am
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wow that's so weird. you wear like a huge size but you look pretty svelte. nice job." - gospastic

My bad - but what's that all about?
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post #10 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:36am

Re: here is the link

Yeah he's right though. The vast majority of clothing on ioffer is counterfeit. Those jeans which that person is selling for $30/pair, if they were authentic, would retail for $175 and the wholesale price IF YOU PURCHASED THEM DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUFACTURER would be close to $100. There's no way they're authentic if she's selling them for 1/3rd of wholesale. You should try to return them...
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post #11 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:39am
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Well, nowhere in the auction does it say they are authentic though. BUT I have to say this - I bought an authentic pair in NYC last week but my tag says Joey and that is truly the only difference from them. So I am not sure if I should list them on EBay or not. What's your opinion? Can I say that I do not gaurantee authenticity?
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post #12 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:48am
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Well, nowhere in the auction does it say they are authentic though. BUT I have to say this - I bought an authentic pair in NYC last week but my tag says Joey and that is truly the only difference from them. So I am not sure if I should list them on EBay or not. What's your opinion? Can I say that I do not gaurantee authenticity?
Yeah but its illegal to buy and sell knockoff clothing, not to mention unethical. So the fact that the person doesn't explicitly claim authenticity doesn't mean you should sell them to other people (who will probably assume what they're getting is the real thing). Regarding differences: maybe on first blush they seem the same, but having seen the counterfeit ones believe me there's plenty of differences. Literally take both pairs and lay them side by side and do a careful visual comparison of quality of material, shape and cut, stitching, tags etc and you will see some striking differences.

There's also the ethical/legal problems regarding the buying and selling of fakes. I've seen three stories in the news in the past 4 months about bootleggers being caught with counterfeit money, clothing and thousands of pounds of drugs. These people who make the counterfeit clothing are usually involved in other illicit activities. The spanish government found that the 4/11 bombers in spain made much of their funding from the sale of counterfeit clothing and merchandise, eg.

I would try to RETURN THE JEANS. If you resell them knowing that they are not authentic, regardless of your estimation of their quality, you are doing yourself and your clients a disservice.
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post #13 of 53
9/30/05 at 9:53am
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I hear you. I can't return them because I already had them shortened. The only reason I want to get rid of them is because I found that after wearing them for an hour, they stretched too much on me and were looser than I prefer. So I went and bought a pair from an actual store in NY.
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post #14 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:01am
The wash looks fake. Based on your feedbacks, it looks like you're a fan of counterfeit stuff though. Please be reminded that it's illegal to buy AND sell fake stuff.
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post #15 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:02am

Re: Question on Outside Tag of True Religion.

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Originally Posted by paula312
I bought a pair of True Religion from ioffer.com that are supposedly authentic. I noticed a few different styles on the back outside tag as I was searching pictures for authenticity. The original hanging tag was from 2004....On my back pocket it says #503 after "SECTION" instead of Joey. Did they make them like this? Would the real ones say Joey?
And where did you get the idea that they were "supposed" to be authentic?
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post #16 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:03am
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I'm definitely aware of that now after buying fakes and comparing to the real thing. Thanks for your input.
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post #17 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:04am
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The seller told me in email that he gets them from a reliable wholesaler and that he was almost positive they were authentic. He said he was only selling them to get rid of the rest of his stock.
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post #18 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by paula312
The seller told me in email that he gets them from a reliable wholesaler and that he was almost positive they were authentic. He said he was only selling them to get rid of the rest of his stock.
They all say that. None of them are going to admit they're selling fakes, if they even know at all...
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post #19 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:16am
I sincerely hope you won't re-sell the fake jeans on Ebay or anywhere along with the fake Louis Vuitton that you acquired.

I would still e-mail the seller and see if you can send them back for a refund.

Good luck.
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post #20 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:18am
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Well the gut is located in Ontario Canada and said all sales are final so I guess I am stuck
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post #21 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:19am
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And why would you be checking out my past purchases when I only asked if someone could check the authenticity of these jeans?
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post #22 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:20am
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And why would you be checking out my past purchases when I only asked if someone could check the authenticity of these jeans?
Ha, that's funny.
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post #23 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:29am
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Wow you should be a Private Investigator for counterfeit items with all that time on your hands, for real!
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post #24 of 53
9/30/05 at 10:36am
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Wow you should be a Private Investigator for counterfeit items with all that time on your hands, for real!
Thats kinda the raison d'etre of this forum. At least one of them.
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post #25 of 53
9/30/05 at 2:41pm
Those jeans are defiantely fake- the whiskering looks horrendous. Authenticating clothing is a lot of what we do here, so diva wasn't being nosy, just giving you a FYI that everything else you've gotten from ioffer is fake as well (in case you didnt know.) You can get auth. clothing on ebay and online shops for the same cost (or not much more) than you are paying for fake stuff on ioffer. The quality is a lot better on auth stuff and it will last you much longer.
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