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post #26 of 274
5/31/07 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by Odie View Post
I outed you, now you regret it! Stupid!
Hahahhahahahahahahaha, I love this line!
post #27 of 274
5/31/07 at 10:25am
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Originally Posted by dizzel View Post
Speaking of letting things die...
You've got a bloody cheek! You MOD bash every chance you get. How about letting that die! Hypocrite.
post #28 of 274
5/31/07 at 10:25am
What's with the false NAV negging him???
post #29 of 274
5/31/07 at 10:47am
^ I think he wants to go to banned camp too, mom.
post #30 of 274
5/31/07 at 10:50am
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Originally Posted by iluvshopin View Post
I agree 100% with sevenkids statements. Pm's are private and people should not be banned when they are told to take it to pm and then say something that someone else thinks is inappropriate!!

Not a virus...You have made great points and It is great to see you back....
Completely agree. Private messages are meant to be kept private. Tim...I'm a bit late. Good to see you back buddy- uh where did you put the flute?
post #31 of 274
5/31/07 at 10:54am
Yes, you're right. I said one thing 5 or 6 months ago so that makes us the same
post #32 of 274
5/31/07 at 12:00pm
Mods:

Why was NAV banned for saying the C word, but romansmom had no punishment for talking about the various acts of vandalism she'd do to my belongings and workplace, and telling me I should choke to death on my own vomit?
post #33 of 274
5/31/07 at 12:19pm
Because she has children.
post #34 of 274
5/31/07 at 12:22pm
A reasonable forum policy.
post #35 of 274
5/31/07 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by avatar View Post
Mods:

Why was NAV banned for saying the C word, but romansmom had no punishment for talking about the various acts of vandalism she'd do to my belongings and workplace, and telling me I should choke to death on my own vomit?

sorry but....I just laughed a little lol
post #36 of 274
5/31/07 at 12:47pm
^^ lol. I chuckled at the last 3 posts. I had no idea any of this was happing. Nonetheless, good to have you back! I'm on Team NAV! Whoop!
I read more about this than I read my first year in college
post #37 of 274
5/31/07 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by mythek View Post
sorry but....I just laughed a little lol
It's funny, I'm not gonna lie.
post #38 of 274
5/31/07 at 2:07pm
You can say the C bomb if you just block some of it out like this c*nt

I do it all the time. It's one reason some ppl don't like me

It does say in the rules not to use the C bomb. It does not say that about any other word so you should be right to say fucker instead. Just don't direct it at someone in particular because that would breach the 'respect' rule.
post #39 of 274
5/31/07 at 2:07pm
i was going to say why is ____ neggin NAV. haha does NAV even deserve to be negged in this thread???


hope no one else gets negged from this thread lol~
post #40 of 274
5/31/07 at 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by anuish143 View Post
Completely agree. Private messages are meant to be kept private. Tim...I'm a bit late. Good to see you back buddy- uh where did you put the flute?
wow annuish thats you in your pm your so pretty ....

look im changing the subject ..
post #41 of 274
5/31/07 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by denimobsessed View Post
You can say the C bomb if you just block some of it out like this c*nt

I do it all the time. It's one reason some ppl don't like me

It does say in the rules not to use the C bomb. It does not say that about any other word so you should be right to say fucker instead. Just don't direct it at someone in particular because that would breach the 'respect' rule.
^^ That is not why people don't like you. It goes way beyond that.

And you use the C word all the time...nice....very classy.

So think you can call people a fucker or c*** because you block out some letters and don't directly say their name but probably find a way to direct it at them anyway??

No, you really can't and it's nuts you think you can.
post #42 of 274
5/31/07 at 7:30pm
1. please simply don't call women the c word.

2. the pm was forwarded to me. we don't have any way to read pm's and we have never used any pm reading system. and to what ben said, our database is no longer phpbb. it encrypted by vbulletin now and much more secure. we have no technical ability to break the encryption of the pm system.

3. we really encourage people to be more respectful, lately there seems to be a lot of disrespect flying around that really makes the time the mods and admins spend here quite frustrating, and it also is frustrating to our members as well. believe me when i say it, trudging through drama and direspect and trying to make all the correct temporary bans and warnings, is about as exciting as changing diapers.
post #43 of 274
5/31/07 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by SevenKid0505 View Post
I don't think that anyone should be banned for the content of a private message. Yes, it was still sent on the HonestForum, but private messages aren't the business of anyone but the sender and the recipient.
I just threw up a little in my mouth...but I agree whole-heartedly with the above statements.
post #44 of 274
6/1/07 at 10:56am
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Originally Posted by BEFORE_DISHONOR View Post
wow annuish thats you in your pm your so pretty ....

look im changing the subject ..
aw you are sweet- thank you!
post #45 of 274
6/1/07 at 11:24am
Thread Starter 
dave, i am glad i am able to hear your thoughts on this. while i still completely disagree with your judgment call, it's your forum so you can do whatever you want. as i've said, to be fair and consistent, you can't make decisions with a bias by ignoring the offenses (i.e. rules #1 and #6 in the rules section) of the person whom i was genuinely upset at. in fact, in comparison, i think my offense was rather petty. i would really appreciate at least a response to my objections so i don't feel like you're ignoring them and implicitly condoning the offenses of the aforementioned person. as the person whom you ban, i think i deserve at least this explanation.


EDIT: i am NOT asking you to ban this aforementioned person. in fact, i ask that you not; i just want an explanation.
post #46 of 274
6/1/07 at 10:08pm
nice to have you bak navs

also, glad to hear you didn't fall into the poison ivy at banned camp!
post #47 of 274
6/1/07 at 11:26pm
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Originally Posted by avatar View Post
A reasonable forum policy.
you're fuckin funny man...lol
post #48 of 274
6/2/07 at 9:26am
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Originally Posted by honestdave View Post
and to what ben said, our database is no longer phpbb. it encrypted by vbulletin now and much more secure. we have no technical ability to break the encryption of the pm system.
Hate to be picky here, but vbulletin runs on MySQL, and so even if you don't install the PHP hack that allows you to read PMs through the VB front-end, you could still conceivably just run the MySQL query client and pull PMs directly from the DB. From what I can tell in the VB docs the only stuff that's actually ENCRYPTED (ie: stored in a non-plaintext fashion in the database itself) is the passwords.

In fact, all the private messages are stored in a table called (big surprise) privatemessage and I've found lots of examples online of people directly querying that table looking for messages containing certain substrings, eg

SELECT message FROM privatemessage WHERE message LIKE '%phrase%';

Again, not accusing anyone of anything, but anyone with rudamentary SQL knowledge and direct access to the backing data store of HF could definitely read the PMs if they were so inclined...
post #49 of 274
6/2/07 at 11:03am
I have to say...

I have seen/heard of several instances where a mod knew something that could really only have come from having read a PM.

No...I can't say what or who...

But I stopped treating my private messages here like they were private a long time ago. If I have something private to say to another member, I email them.

Question: If NAV had emailed his comment to FM, would he have been banned?

I'm just trying to sort out the level to which HF considers they have a right to control/dictate the language of their members. I can understand dictating language on a public forum and what is being broadcast, however, when such control delves into private messages, I find that the issue is muddied considerably.

Also, I am wondering why it is that some offenses...like blatant racism, are put up for votes on the moderators board, while calling someone a foul name in a private message is not. This suggests to me that calling someone a name is worse than being a big nasty racist. Is that really HFs position?
post #50 of 274
6/2/07 at 2:51pm
this is exactly why I was so draconian in enforcing the rules - you have to be consistant.
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