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post #126 of 307
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OPEC is
Psh. America's sources of energy are not nearly as dependent on oil as the media would like you to believe and our main suppliers of our oil are either produced in the US, Canada, or Mexico. It's still important, at about 40% of our energy consumption, but it's not all coming from Iran. I think it's 30% electricity (which is a product, not actually a form of energy, I know), 25% nuclear (way not sure on this one), and 5% other. Maybe. I know the oil statistic is right though.
post #127 of 307
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I've often wondered what you do for a living NAV.
i am a trash collector

mystery solved
post #128 of 307
I wouldn't punish Israel for dropping them off either. I feel Israel's big flaw in their execution of the war was not waging it effectively and bowing down to the hopelessly useless U.N.

Yes, you are right, Israel attacked Lebanon for harboring Hizballah terrorists. Why? Not just for fun - because Hizballah attacked first. Israel, in this war, and in EVERY war, engaged in a war of self-defense.

The media propaganda in that war, such as letting terrorists pose with dead children, stopping a stretcher so pictures could be taken of it, digitally editing photos to make Beirut look much more damaged than it was and thus vilify Israel, and the list goes on - was GIGANTIC, and mainly anti-Israel.
post #129 of 307
Hezbz kidnapped and killed many Israeli soldiers while operating on Lebanese territory without repercussions. They should not be surprised when they are bombed by a sovereign nation for acts of war.

Plenty of bombs made in Israel btw. And unlike Syria (Lebanon's occupier for many years) they are an open democracy where Arabs have more representation then anywhere else.

Yea, NAV what is your source of lively hood.
post #130 of 307
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Originally Posted by not_a_virus.exe View Post
i am a trash collector

mystery solved
I am so disappointed. I thought you were a penguin farmer

Stoopid Google.
post #131 of 307
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Originally Posted by callire View Post
Psh. America's sources of energy are not nearly as dependent on oil as the media would like you to believe and our main suppliers of our oil are either produced in the US, Canada, or Mexico. It's still important, at about 40% of our energy consumption, but it's not all coming from Iran. I think it's 30% electricity (which is a product, not actually a form of energy, I know), 25% nuclear (way not sure on this one), and 5% other. Maybe. I know the oil statistic is right though.
I really ment it as a joke. Yet, coercion amongst a global cartel does affect gasoline prices.
post #132 of 307
Bombs? I don't want to get into Hiroshima (fantastic book, btw.)
post #133 of 307
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Psh. America's sources of energy are not nearly as dependent on oil as the media would like you to believe and our main suppliers of our oil are either produced in the US, Canada, or Mexico. It's still important, at about 40% of our energy consumption, but it's not all coming from Iran. I think it's 30% electricity (which is a product, not actually a form of energy, I know), 25% nuclear (way not sure on this one), and 5% other. Maybe. I know the oil statistic is right though.
I heard that most of our oil comes from Mexico.
post #134 of 307
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I really ment it as a joke. Yet, coercion amongst a global cartel does affect gasoline prices.

I am a tad too over zealous when it comes to hot button issues.

Not too bad for a High Schooler, Eh?
post #135 of 307
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I heard that most of our oil comes from Mexico.
That's probably right. Mexico and Canda are our biggest suppliers. I'm not sure if they started Alaska drilling yet (I know Bush approved it).
post #136 of 307
Before high school rots your brain (speaking from personal experience) read Carl Sagan, it will help you learn how to think critically.

Oil has been drilled in Alaska for a long time.
post #137 of 307
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I wouldn't punish Israel for dropping them off either. I feel Israel's big flaw in their execution of the war was not waging it effectively and bowing down to the hopelessly useless U.N.

Yes, you are right, Israel attacked Lebanon for harboring Hizballah terrorists. Why? Not just for fun - because Hizballah attacked first. Israel, in this war, and in EVERY war, engaged in a war of self-defense.
UN didnt do shit the fact of the matter is that Israel got its ass handed to them and you can read this on their own newspaper for example haaretz

BTW did you read that i said and news quote that those cluster bombs are taking limbs of innocent people not Hizbollah but civilians!! Now do you understand why i cussed you out?

Who attacked who first and where is just a matter of where you get your news from, There are so many people abducted from lebanon border too but israeli troops? Would you like to see some videos of how their military treats others? If it will open your eyes i will gladly put em on here. There are many innocents rotting in their jail cells whom you dont even know the name of.

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The media propaganda in that war, such as letting terrorists pose with dead children, stopping a stretcher so pictures could be taken of it, digitally editing photos to make Beirut look much more damaged than it was and thus vilify Israel, and the list goes on - was GIGANTIC, and mainly anti-Israel.
Dude i followed that war day and night so dont give me flaky BS.

Those people were not terrorist. they were not hizbollah. Showing carnage committed by indiscriminate firing is not propaganda but exposure of war crimes!

As for the editing pics Beirut, the person who did it was called out and by the evening it was exposed and covered by all major newspaper thereby losing all credibility.

Nothing is Anti-Israel. They committed war crimes and personally should be held responsible without any sympathy.
post #138 of 307
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Originally Posted by callire View Post
That's probably right. Mexico and Canda are our biggest suppliers. I'm not sure if they started Alaska drilling yet (I know Bush approved it).
Mexico and Canada import that oil from other countries.
post #139 of 307
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Originally Posted by maxim View Post
Before high school rots your brain (speaking from personal experience) read Carl Sagan, it will help you learn how to think critically.

Oil has been drilled in Alaska for a long time.
Hopefully I won't end up with a rotted brain, I'm getting the best education that a $40k tution can afford.
post #140 of 307
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Originally Posted by loveswatching View Post
UN didnt do shit the fact of the matter is that Israel got its ass handed to them and you can read this on their own newspaper for example haaretz

BTW did you read that i said and news quote that those cluster bombs are taking limbs of innocent people not Hizbollah but civilians!! Now do you understand why i cussed you out?

Who attacked who first and where is just a matter of where you get your news from, There are so many people abducted from lebanon border too but israeli troops? Would you like to see some videos of how their military treats others? If it will open your eyes i will gladly put em on here. There are many innocents rotting in their jail cells whom you dont even know the name of.


Dude i followed that war day and night so dont give me flaky BS.

Those people were not terrorist. they were not hizbollah. Showing carnage committed by indiscriminate firing is not propaganda but exposure of war crimes!

As for the editing pics Beirut, the person who did it was called out and by the evening it was exposed and covered by all major newspaper thereby losing all credibility.

Nothing is Anti-Israel. They committed war crimes and personally should be held responsible without any sympathy.
As long as the people of Lebannon quarter Hezbollah, they will reap the tragedies of war.
post #141 of 307
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Originally Posted by begret View Post
I am so disappointed. I thought you were a penguin farmer

Stoopid Google.
penguins are trash. so contrary to popular belief, i am not contradicting myself.
post #142 of 307
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Originally Posted by icewater View Post
As long as the people of Lebannon quarter Hezbollah, they will reap the tragedies of war.
True but I do not think they want them there.
post #143 of 307
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Originally Posted by sultrysiren View Post
True but I do not think they want them there.
I would imagine if they didn't before, they certainly don't now.
post #144 of 307
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As long as the people of Lebannon quarter Hezbollah, they will reap the tragedies of war.
lol hizbollah is part of Lebanon and its cabinet and their citizens embrace them. They are now building every house that got bombed by Isreal and they do provide all kinds of social assistance needed that is why in this war you saw them getting all the support they needed. Go ask how Lebanon feels about hizbollah aside from walid J men, and you will see they are all positive.


I can more into sects etc etc but i am guessing a lot of people here wont understand.
post #145 of 307
I knew 6 pages meant that this was going to be a political argument.
post #146 of 307
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Originally Posted by loveswatching View Post
lol hizbollah is part of Lebanon and its cabinet and their citizens embrace them. They are now building every house that got bombed by Isreal and they do provide all kinds of social assistance needed that is why in this war you saw them getting all the support they needed. Go ask how Lebanon feels about hizbollah aside from walid J men, and you will see they are all positive.


I can more into sects etc etc but i am guessing a lot of people here wont understand.
Then I guess the "Atrocities" that Israel committed were really general acts of war against its enemy?

Not that I'm saying it was the right course of action.
post #147 of 307
This is a good book about Lebanon. This is written by a woman who lived through the start of it and not just someone following the war on the news.

FrontPage magazine.com :: Because They Hate by Brigitte Gabriel
post #148 of 307
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Originally Posted by kellygawtscammed View Post
I knew 6 pages meant that this was going to be a political argument.
At first is was about being happy for living in the USA and that pissed some people off.
post #149 of 307
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Originally Posted by loveswatching View Post
lol hizbollah is part of Lebanon and its cabinet and their citizens embrace them. They are now building every house that got bombed by Isreal and they do provide all kinds of social assistance needed that is why in this war you saw them getting all the support they needed. Go ask how Lebanon feels about hizbollah aside from walid J men, and you will see they are all positive.


I can more into sects etc etc but i am guessing a lot of people here wont understand.
They should thus be treated as an enemy.
post #150 of 307
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Originally Posted by kellygawtscammed View Post
I knew 6 pages meant that this was going to be a political argument.
I think I missed the arguement part.
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