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post #1 of 14
3/16/07 at 6:13pm
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I know protein is needed for your body to rebuild muscle, but isn't there a pretty bad downside to a high protein diet as well?

1. Doesn't protein produce a lot of toxic waste products?
2. Doesn't eating a lot accelerate aging?

I hesitate to post this on a bodybuilding forum because I think I'll get mostly biased answers.
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post #2 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:14pm
If you eat the wrong kind of protein, fatty meats,etc. it can overload your kidneys. Lean protein, however is generally good for you. Fish, whole grains, etc.

I don't think a lean protein diet accelerates aging, but Atkins is hard on your body over the long run.

Don't say no it isn't if your under 45, you don't know yet
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post #3 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:25pm
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thanks for the insight, begret!

hmm, i know i've read in quite a bit of different places that recent studies point that eating a lot accelerates aging though? and body builders have to eat a lot to get that increased calorie intake. i am so confused.
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post #4 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:35pm
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Originally Posted by not_a_virus.exe View Post
I know protein is needed for your body to rebuild muscle, but isn't there a pretty bad downside to a high protein diet as well?

1. Doesn't protein produce a lot of toxic waste products?
2. Doesn't eating a lot accelerate aging?

I hesitate to post this on a bodybuilding forum because I think I'll get mostly biased answers.
#1 Not if you drink a lot of water to flush them out, it will have no effect unless you consume MASSIVE amounts

#2 Not at all. Especialy if its a lot of healthy food. And definitly no if your supplementing properly,That study Im sure is basd on real fatty and high caloric foods ( ie fast foods)
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post #5 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:38pm
Yeah, see ! CUTUP is right. That's why those darn Whey protein shakes are so crucial, calories and good protein. They make soy protein shake powder too, but blech. I personally don't like em. You can get a lot of calories w/o too much bad fat easily!
As Egotist knows I consume about 4,000 calories a day. So quality eatin is important to me!
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post #6 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:44pm
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nice, you guys rock!

always gotta watch out for those biased and/or sensational "studies."

and look at you begret...you would know whether something accelerates aging

cutup, i definitely need to increase my water intake. thanks for the reminder.




last question: is it true that soy is not that great for men since it increases estrogen levels?
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post #7 of 14
3/16/07 at 7:58pm
I don't feel good if I eat too much soy. But it's not the same kind of estrogen, it's plant estrogen. But I would be interested to know too.
I don't jump on any bandwagon, that's for sure. You can only make educated guesses as to what's best for you. I could drop dead tommorrow. But probably won't
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post #8 of 14
3/17/07 at 9:25am
Protein: Nutrition Source, Harvard School of Public Health

"Can you get too much protein? Digesting it releases acids that the body usually neutralizes with calcium and other buffering agents in the blood. Eating lots of protein, such as the amounts recommended in the so-called low-carb or no-carb diets, takes lots of calcium. Some of this may be pulled from bone. Following a high-protein diet for a few weeks probably won't have much effect on bone strength. Doing it for a long time, though, could weaken bone. In the Nurses' Health Study, for example, women who ate more than 95 grams of protein a day were 20 percent more likely to have broken a wrist over a 12-year period when compared to those who ate an average amount of protein (less than 68 grams a day).(1) Although more research is clearly needed to define the optimal amount of daily protein, these results suggest that long-term high-protein diets should be used with caution, if at all."

everything in moderation as i always say (and push to the back of my mind as i eat a pan of brownies)!
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post #9 of 14
3/19/07 at 12:21am
Be careful of your kidneys
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post #10 of 14
3/19/07 at 10:59am
All I know is it gives you ridiculously fowl gas out the back end...haha sorry.

Like bad.
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post #11 of 14
3/20/07 at 9:51am
^ LOL that is so true. That is because the bacteria that are trying ferociously to digest that meant create wonderfully smelling gas! The meat is esssentially rotting in your intestines. SMELLLLLLLS GOOOD!

If you consume a lot of protein, you absolutely have to digest it and get it out as fast as possible. You should be taking digestive enzymes and a good colon cleanser.
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post #12 of 14
3/20/07 at 2:21pm
I get most of my protein from veg. whey, tofu.. no foul gas. I do eat meat sometimes but not much. Even chicken My stomach gets screwed up from white stuff.
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post #13 of 14
3/21/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by poorPOOHbaby View Post
^ LOL that is so true. That is because the bacteria that are trying ferociously to digest that meant create wonderfully smelling gas! The meat is esssentially rotting in your intestines. SMELLLLLLLS GOOOD!

If you consume a lot of protein, you absolutely have to digest it and get it out as fast as possible. You should be taking digestive enzymes and a good colon cleanser.
hahaha Ewww!
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post #14 of 14
3/22/07 at 12:09pm
I usually eat about 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight... so about 160~ grams a day and I've had no problems and like cutup said, you should be drinking a decent amount of water. I tend to drink 2 litres or more.

I've read a few studies saying that it's myth to believe that soy protein supplements will increase your estrogen levels or reduce testosterone levels... I just stick with whey protein myself though.
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