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Am I too Fruity?

post #1 of 28
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So, I eat a ton of fruit. Like...lots.

I have a sweet tooth so I don't keep any kind of candy, chocolate, ice cream or anything else in the house. If I did it would be gone in a heartbeat.

Instead, I keep myself well-supplied with fruit.

In addition to almost daily juices (those usually have some carrot and celery juice in them too). I eat 4-5 clementines (little seedless oranges), a plum or apple and 1-2 all-fruit smoothies (frozen fruit + juice).

So, this has got to be too much, right?
post #2 of 28
Not in my opinion. I personally think a fruitarian diet is closest to nature. Fruit is the ultimate fuel for the body, broken down and used before you even lose the taste in your mouth. As long as you get your plant fats, buts seeds, which I know you do, fruit rules.

Edit: nuts not buts, Frostee is still on my mind.
post #3 of 28
I think regular fruit is just fine, but juices are generally no-nos unless they have no added sugar Good for you though!!!!
post #4 of 28
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Most of my juice is homemade in my juicer...so no added sugar there. (One of my best purchases ever! Can't wait until I can afford one of the REALLY good ones.)

I use a store-bought juice blend as the liquid when I am making the smoothies, but that is a no added sugar kind too.

Yay! I get to keep my fruit!
post #5 of 28
Living and Raw Foods:* The Fruitarian Diet

Here is a good fruit diet link for you.
post #6 of 28
I eat a ton of fruit, too, esp. now that I'm pregnant. I crave fruit! Plums, raspberries, blueberries, pears, all of it. YUM! I'll eat as much as my body will let me (without getting bloated!)
post #7 of 28
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^^^If I ever get pregnant I should make sure to invest in an orchard or something...I'm sure I will be eating bucketsful.

But better to be craving fruit than milkshakes and french fries.

You know Michele, I did try to go 50% raw once...It is the only dietary change I was never able to maintain at all....sigh.

I went wheat and gluten free for three months no problem (to see if I had the allergy), I went vegan for two months...no biggie (although a pain), but darned if raw didn't do me in.

Reading the article now...I think I need to start eating dates.
post #8 of 28
Dates are a great source of potassium. When I was your age (shaking cane) I ate tons of fruit, as I get older it's more raw veggies than fruit. I eat everything raw, turnips, cabbage, the usual carrots,peppers, etc. I just naturally w/o noticing decided to cut back on the fruit, I guess. I eat raw nuts too. I've never been a big bread eater and never liked mixing bread/fruit for some reason.
So be fruity and proud of it!
post #9 of 28
LOL I can only assume the why for the dates. You animal you!

The raw diet is by far the hardest. My kids are probably 80% raw. If you start it early it is easy cheesy. They really avoid cooked most food. Of course once the older kids introduced candy, chocolate, it was really difficult but I have been teaching them "sometimes" foods and now they tell me. Mom, I would like some chocolate please, it's my Sometime. Thank God they will take a protein bar as chocolate.

What did your gluten wheat free diet indicate? Did you notice any specific skin beautification? I know of a few people on wheat free diets and their skin is amazing. My girlfriend has Celiacs Disease, not diagnosed until she was 35. It has RAVAGED her body, it's terrible. She had to go to at least 30 Doctor's before one even suggested a food allergy. I had been telling her for years she had intestinal issues. The ones that are closest to you are the hardest to convince. Anyhoo, she has a really hard time with the diet, bread is her weaness and one of mine as well.

My diet is lacking and with all the health information I have it's really a shame. I am embarrassed to admit I slack on my diet. I pay for it too. If I could have any one diet it would be fruitarian. It is easieast to do after a long fast I think. Cleaning out the old food residue, like drugs, kills the cravings.
post #10 of 28
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Oh Begret! I love it when you shake your cane at me!

I love raw veggies too. Carrots, celery, broccolli, sugar snap peas....I also like raw plain cabbage (how weird is that?!?!?)

I like raw nuts as well. I eat a handful of raw almonds almost every morning. Yum.
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by poorPOOHbaby View Post
LOL I can only assume the why for the dates. You animal you!

The raw diet is by far the hardest. My kids are probably 80% raw. If you start it early it is easy cheesy. They really avoid cooked most food. Of course once the older kids introduced candy, chocolate, it was really difficult but I have been teaching them "sometimes" foods and now they tell me. Mom, I would like some chocolate please, it's my Sometime. Thank God they will take a protein bar as chocolate.

What did your gluten wheat free diet indicate? Did you notice any specific skin beautification? I know of a few people on wheat free diets and their skin is amazing. My girlfriend has Celiacs Disease, not diagnosed until she was 35. It has RAVAGED her body, it's terrible. She had to go to at least 30 Doctor's before one even suggested a food allergy. I had been telling her for years she had intestinal issues. The ones that are closest to you are the hardest to convince. Anyhoo, she has a really hard time with the diet, bread is her weaness and one of mine as well.

My diet is lacking and with all the health information I have it's really a shame. I am embarrassed to admit I slack on my diet. I pay for it too. If I could have any one diet it would be fruitarian. It is easieast to do after a long fast I think. Cleaning out the old food residue, like drugs, kills the cravings.
Honestly, I had no changes with the gluten and wheat free diet. I did it because a housemate of mine had read about Celiacs...and the best way to find out if you are is to just stop eating it for a while. When I did it, I found no real changes in me. However, I did appreciate learning that they put wheat gluten in EVERYTHING for no real benificial reason. So that changed certain things about how I pick out food.

The best skin I ever had in my whole life was on my 21 day Master Cleanse...go figure.

That is so great that your kids are just used to eating raw...what a great start to life (I love the mom...it is my SOMETIME...LOL!)

My diet is far from perfect...not even close actually. I am pretty good during the week, when I am eating at home by myself. I can keep only good food in the house and that makes it so easy.

Weekends it all goes to shit (well...not really...but I am prone to binging on thai/pizza/other takeout)
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by casey60622 View Post
Oh Begret! I love it when you shake your cane at me!

I love raw veggies too. Carrots, celery, broccolli, sugar snap peas....I also like raw plain cabbage (how weird is that?!?!?)

I like raw nuts as well. I eat a handful of raw almonds almost every morning. Yum.
Pooh/Casey I eat raw cabbage like fruit! It's really good for you! Cooking changes it into sugars,etc(carrots, too) Snap peas, I'll eat a whole bag!
My husbands' parents are vegetarians ALL their life, H's mom is allergic to wheat. So she makes cornbread(grinding her own cornmeal ) no flour. It's great.
I eat a lot of dark chocolate, but not cake, cookies, just chocolate. Every now and then i'll eat fun dessert, but not at home. I realized I have no sugar, no flour in my house!!!!!! I do love my dairy. I don't drink milk alone, but I use heavy cream in coffee MMMM and lots of plain yoghurt.
I like tofu too! Sometimes I eat a little meat, but not much.
I think eating well is just trying not to eat packaged, processed food whenever possible. I don't drink either, as it smells funny to me (?) OHHh I do love my whey protein though!
Yoghurt, ice, dates, whey vanilla/ blueberries! MMMmmm.
I like to eat the eggs my chickens lay too!
post #13 of 28
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I have to watch out for the sugar snap peas...darn things are EXPENSIVE!

Glad to know I am not alone in the cabbage...I always feel so crazy when I am eating a bowl of it.

I like tofu as well...but that HAS to be cooked (unless silken and being blended to make some faux cream sauce).

I agree with you about not eating packaged and processed foods as much as possible. When I AM eating something like that, my rule is to find the things that have the most recognizable ingredients (corn chips should have corn and salt, pasta sauce should have tomato, garlic, onion, oregano....not a whole bunch of chemicals and stuff I have never heard of).

Yeah...I drink too much. I don't drink on most weeknights...if I do it is usually a glass of wine or two. However, I get drunk at least once a week. Bad, I know. But I am a writer, so I have to drink (okay, not really, but I don't see myself changing my alcohol habits much in the near future)
post #14 of 28
Ahh,don't stress about alcohol. I eat dark chocolate like it's going out of style, and my BIG cup of coffee in the am. It hasn't affected my health so far. So sue me.

It's always something!
post #15 of 28
The Master Cleanse will give you just about the best of just about everything! I aspire to be able to complete one.

Yep, you don't realize what gluten is in until you try to eliminate it. It's a binding agent and even if it isn't in the food chances are the machine that was used to process it has gluten residue on it.

I absolutely LOVE cornbread! LOVE IT, LOVE IT!

Cabbage is so good for you! Begret your diet does not surprise me in the least,. You are a glowing example of a healthy diet. You look fabulous. Seruously, people need to take note. Our food age is clearly stamped on our faces. Processed sugars are the worst wrinkle creators.

When I lived alone my diet was superb. I don't do the grocery shopping so I succumb to my husbands cravings many times. But he is amazingly healthy so it's probably not as bad as I think. I don't do cookies, I do cake at birthdays and it is a weakness for me. Really processed foods are minimal here. We spend probably 50% of our food money on fruit. I eat my weight in strawberries and tomatos a week.
post #16 of 28
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I eat dark chocolate like it's going out of style, and my BIG cup of coffee in the am. It hasn't affected my health so far. So sue me.

It's always something!
Ditto! You pick your battles. I gave up lots of things to be able to rationalize my coffee and chocolate.
post #17 of 28
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Once your kiddies are a bit older you can pack them off to summer camp (summer camp rocks!) and then you will be able to do your MC. I need to do another one, actually. It is really sad, but the hardest thing for me is finding an extended period of time when I can avoid drinking. I was on day 15 of my long mc for one of my girlfriend's birthdays and she was not happy about me not drinking...hehehe...I was in a great mood though. I sat there with my bottle of water at a very good restaurant watching them eat rich french food and down champagne and wasn't even botherd. By that point in the cleanse nothing is even tempting. Those teen days are great...it is like you are flying. I am a high-energy person, but I need tons of sleep. On the MC I was waking up fully rested after 5 hours. You never realize how much energy your body uses to digest food.

My one problem on the MC is that I spend too much time obsessing about food in place of not eating it. I was spending about 2 hours a day looking at raw food recipes (95% of which were never even attempted)...when I do another one I have to not do that. Fixating on food isn't healthy, even if it is healthy food.

I'm glad to hear two of my biggest health role models (begret and pooh) are big fruits like me. I had been getting worried that this recent trend of mine was overkill, but now I will happily eat all the fruit that I want.
post #18 of 28
I'm glad to hear two of my biggest health role models (begret and pooh)


That up there^^^^^^^^^^^ means a lot to me. I hate to rag about good food unless it is welcomed by the ragee When you're my age, it's more about how you feel anyway. Enjoy your youth, but prepare for old age, I guess!
post #19 of 28
When they are older hopefully they will do the MC with me. How terrible is this, my first thought when reading about sending them off to camp was how corrupted(foodwise) they would become while being there. I clearly have a problem.

I know of a guy who did an extended fast of 108 days and he had to train himself to eat again. Of course, he also cured himself of cancer during that fast. The body expends 80% of it's energy to digest food. It is the basis for fasting, releasing that energy to be used for healing. When I get sick I immediatly stop eating. It works everytime.

Obsessing about food is never a good thing but I'd rather see obsession over raw fruit then a cake anytime.

I love the stage of food detox. For anyone interested in fasting...it's long but excellent information for those reading this wondering why anyone would stop eating for 21 days.

Stage 1 (Day 1 To Day 2)
On the first day of fasting, the blood sugar level drops below 70 mg/dl. To restore the blood to the normal glucose level, liver glycogen is converted to glucose and released into the blood. This reserve is enough for half a day. The body then reduces the basal metabolic rate (BMR). The rate of internal chemical activity in resting tissue is lowered to conserve energy. The heart slows and blood pressure is reduced. Glycogen is pulled from the muscle causing some weakness. The first wave of cleansing is usually the worst.

Headaches, dizziness, nausea, bad breath, glazed eyes and a heavily coated tongue are signs of the first stage of cleansing. Hunger can be the most intense in this period unless the enema is used which quickly assists the body into the fasting state by ending digestion in the colon.

Stage 2 (Day 3 To Day 7)
Fats, composed of transformed fatty acids, are broken down to release glycerol from the gliceride molecules and are converted to glucose. The skin may become oily as rancid oils are purged from the body. People with problem-free skin may have a few days of pimples or even a boil. A pallid complexion is also a sign of waste in the blood. Ketones are formed by the incomplete oxidation of fats. It is suspected that the ketones in the blood suppress the appetite by affecting the food-satiety center in the hypothalamus. You may feel hungry for the first few days of the fast. This effect is temporary. The desire to eat will disappear. Lack of hunger may last 40 to 60 days, depending on whether you are on water or juice.

The body embraces the fast and the digestive system is able to take a much-needed rest, focusing all of its energies on cleansing and healing. White blood cell and immune system activity increases. You may feel pain in your lungs. The cleansing organs and the lungs are in the process of being repaired. Periodically, the lymphatic system expels mucoid matter through the nose or throat. The volume excreted of this yellow-colored mucus can be shocking. The sinuses go through periods of being clogged, then will totally clear. The breath is still foul and the tongue coated. Within the intestine, the colon is being repaired and impacted feces on the intestinal wall start to loosen.

Stage 3 (Day 8 to Day 15)
On the latter part of an extended fast, you can experience enhanced energy, clear-mindedness and feel better than you have felt since childhood. On the downside, old injuries may become irritated and painful. This is a result of the body's increased ability to heal during fasting. If you had broken your arm 10 years before, there is scar tissue around the break. At the time of the break, the body's ability to heal was directly related to lifestyle. If you lived on a junk-food diet, the body's natural healing ability was compromised.

During fasting, the body's healing process is at optimum efficiency. As the body scours for dead or damaged tissue, the lymphocytes enter the older, damaged tissue secreting substances to dissolve the damaged cells. These substances irritate the nerves in the surrounding region and cause a reoccurrence of aches from previously injured areas that may have disappeared years earlier. The pain is good as the body is completing the healing process. The muscles may become tight and sore due to toxin irritation. The legs can be the worst affected, as toxins accumulate in the legs. Cankers are common in this stage due to the excessive bacteria in the mouth. Daily gargling with salt and water will prevent or heal cankers.

Stage 4 (Day 16 to Day 30)
The body is completely adapted to the fasting process. There is more energy and clarity of mind. Cleansing periods can be short with many days of feeling good in between. There are days when the tongue is pink and the breath is fresh. The healing work of the organs is being completed. After the detoxification mechanisms have removed the causative agent or render it harmless, the body works at maximum capacity in tissue proliferation to replace damaged tissue. While a short fast will reduce the symptoms, a longer fast can completely heal. Homeostatic balance is at optimum levels. The lymphatic system is clean except for a rare discharge of mucus through the nose or throat. After day 20, the mind is affected. Heightened clarity and emotional balance are felt at this time. Memory and concentration improve.

Stage 5 (Breaking the Fast)
The sticky, toxic, mucoid coating on the intestinal wall is loose, and the first meal frees it from the intestinal wall. Toxins enter the blood through the colon. The gallbladder dumps its waste in a heavy discharge of bile. This can cause an instant bowel movement upon eating followed by intense diarrhea. If the symptoms are too uncomfortable, an enema will help.
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by casey60622 View Post

I'm glad to hear two of my biggest health role models (begret and pooh) are big fruits like me.
Thank you, that means alot!!
post #21 of 28
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Michele...the guy who did the 100+ days...was he on a water fast?!?!?

I have determined I will only ever attempt a water fast if I go to some sort of detox retreat type thing where I would have professionals around me. I tried once and on day 4 I was dry heaving and fainting. Maybe that was detox, but if it was, it was too much for me. I had to call someone and have them bring me some orange juice.

It felt weird eating again after 21 days...I kept biting my tongue. Those stages of fasting are SOOO accurate. It is scary. I went for a spa day on day 18 (during the beginning it was really nice to know I had 5 hours of treatments to look forward to). Of course people will ask why you are getting all that stuff done and the staff at the spa was literally shocked...you don't expect someone who hasn't eaten in 18 days to look bright eyed, clear skinned, alert and happy.

(I'm trying to psyche myself up for another one, can you tell?...but it has to warm up because I get sooooo cold when I am on the MC)

And Begret...keep ragging away...I want to look like you when I grow up! (well..okay...not like you because I wouldn't be me then, but I want to be as healthy and happy as you seem to be.)
post #22 of 28
MMMMMMMMMMMM FRUIT!

Strawberries, bananas, pineapple, oranges, pears, mangoes, blueberries, kiwi! Ahhhhhhh /)_(\ DROOL DROOL!

Okay, done now. (:
post #23 of 28
No, he wasn't on water. Water fasting is dangerous, you absolutely have to have potassium in your system. Health of the body is determined by the levels of water, potassium and salt. Create imbalances in these thins by water fasing can kill you. The lemon in the MC provides it and lemon detoxes more quickly then any other citrus. Oranges are more mild and easier for people to take.

He did a vegetable juice fast but the first 21 days were orange juice and almonds(12). Then he added in the greens and various fruits and vegetables for the rest of the fast. He lost about 40 lbs but it almost stopped in the middle and he maintained weight.

If you really want to psych up for a fast try Ehret's Rational Fasting($5.95) or Health Via Food by William Howard Hay MD. The second book is an OLD book, 1929, but one of the best health books ever written. He was a surgeon who turned naturopath after he realized he was killing people. He was also the originator of the above orange juice fast. I have a site to download the book somewhere (edit: http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020165.hay.pdf let me know if this works) but I would gladly send you my copy for you to read. It's a health bible really. It gives you the best look at medicine and health before the advent of big pharma.

Actually here is a link to download hundreds of health books for free. Ehrets books are there I am pretty sure. Soil and Health Library This link is invaluable if you are anything like me! I spent hundreds of dollars on books before I found this site.
post #24 of 28
I need to eat more fruit. I was going to start my healthy diet this week(cut back on wheat, dairy, and cut out sugar completely) but I think my hormones are whacked bc I'm having some serious PMS food cravings. Michelle wants me to do a fruit cleanse for a few days.
post #25 of 28
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I need to eat more fruit. I was going to start my healthy diet this week(cut back on wheat, dairy, and cut out sugar completely) but I think my hormones are whacked bc I'm having some serious PMS food cravings. Michelle wants me to do a fruit cleanse for a few days.
If you're pms-y all the more reason to eat better! Really! Try hard
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