@freeradical yeah thats what i think too.
@Aramis i think its one of cool washes this season (along with 2 of the blue eyecons). and theres also a wash in the new cut, krayver which has that kind of ripped side! very cool!
i dont know what would be worse...sizing down and them being too uncomfortable or getting your usual size and them stretching out...hmm i guess i should go to a Diesel store and try on W30 and W31 before buying!