Thanks for the comment on the jacket. No the shirt is BR flannel ( one of my Fav shirts ) it goes well with any jeans. I think for me Belther is no go, as i have tried Darron previously. For my body type they just sit slightly high on the waist, But i love the details on Darron.....Very cool cut and i love how it tapers very well and stacks good too. I had Darron 75L but i had to sell it because of how they sit on the waist.