DA - I sized up on my 74K, got 29 instead of 28s. the waist is loose but legs fit just right. the denim is super stiff brand new but loosen up after wear. Its typically how thanaz fits. I wear belt w/ my 74K but its well worth it.
yah i feel you - my 887k isn't getting as much action cuz of the tight thighs and looser waist.... i just couldn't really fit it the way i want to as a dress up pair.. you can't have saggy bum for dress up jean.. but now 805A replaces that... except its sits low on the hip so when tuck in shirt may not be what i want too.. god dammit.
wore around my 805a at home last night all night.. god its tight, but I hope they loosen up after few wears.. I just find them super low waisted like my Shioner 8PN.. but nothing like my 801A.. do you guys have this low waist problem or maybe I just bought mine too small?