I don't own 602s so can't compare them.
I like the waxy look for 823d, and it's very stretchy, comfortable to wear. I especially love the greenish color under the sun. Very interesting wash I must say.
FYI, the main button should have a gem stone in it, also the fly is not the traditional zipper clip, it should be just a loop and a piece leather sting should go through it. I can take some photos of mine for reference if you need it
Sorry for hijacking thread aramis.
Just tried sleeker in LV diesel. They only have 886z available. Tried 30 & 31w. 30 was tight at upper block but I think it would give after wear. Somewhat of tight on thigh but still comfortable. 31 was comfortable overall, still nice slim look. Wish they have other washes to try.