811p is pretty nice.
TheKid, I've been supporting Chelsea FC since 1998 when they were middle of the table team.
Who do you support?
Oh and that short is from h&m, for only $29. I think it looks better in RL.
You don't want light wash anymore?
Maybe you can wait a little bit for new fall/winter 2015 collection to arrive.
And I agree low rise on Shioner makes them pretty unconfortable. Today I was wearing thavar 801c they are very low rise, tight and very uncomfortable but I love the 801c wash.