Of course they are loose. But it may depends on the pair i suppose. And i noticed that thavars made with thick denim are loose and denim easily stretch despite they are only cotton.
See my pic : 609M jjeans 26 36cms flat
Below thavar 608T w27 and 38cms flat
Below the 829b w27 and 39cmsflat
That's the reason why i prefer buy jjeans which are true to size. But my prefered cut is tepphar but they often are not true to size especially when they have a lot of elasthan and when...